Front Speakers 4 x 6

What would you guys recommend for a pair of 4 x 6 for under $150

Replies (21)

xplicitblitzboi on 04/16/2003 21:17:00
i wouldnt reccomend getting any 4x6s, if you dont want to do any cutting, your best option would be to get some 4x6 plates with a 4" round speaker in them, the 4x6s like most oval speakers are not very nice for a front soundstage.

ryan on 04/16/2003 22:40:43
But it says my factory speakers are 4 x 6's

ryan on 04/16/2003 22:42:05
nvm i get what ur sayin do suggest any brands

xplicitblitzboi on 04/17/2003 00:59:44
infinity
CDT
mb quart
eclipse
rainbow
dynaudio

blacktallon2000 on 04/17/2003 02:36:27
xplicit could you please explain why round speakers play better then oval ones. Is it a fact or just you're opinion

xplicitblitzboi on 04/17/2003 12:10:57
For all practical purposes, a round cone is more rigid than an oval-shaped cone. At higher sound levels, an oval-shaped cone will distort more. Oval-shaped speakers are made to please the rear deck space considerations of many cars. One advantage of 6x9s, though, is that ovals have more area, and thus move higher air volume and produce more bass this is why they are used for real fill.

Swez on 04/17/2003 12:14:22
If all you have are 4x6 speakers in the front dash, just know that they are not good at reproducing low end bass. If you cross them over at 150-200 Hz and use them as mids/high, that will work on the front stage.

The lower mids (80-500 Hz) can come from Midbass in rear channels, subs (35-80 Hz) for the low end. Jusy dont expect much low end sound from such small speakers. They are not able to do so !!!

There are several 4x6 plate designs out there that will do better than the average oval coaxial . They cost a bit more and act similar to Components speakers... just not much low end response. Don't make a tiny speaker do what is is not designed to do.

Do you see see what I am driving at? Large cones move lots of air and are designed for sub applications. Smaller cones can reproduce low end frequencies... but there is a large trade off... cost, efficiency and enclosure design.

If you have more questions, just ask...

Swez

schlsux on 04/17/2003 18:40:20
I picked up a set of boston acoustic plate 4x6's, and they kick ass. They are 125 at tweeter, and are boston acoustics top of the line 4x6. i have two running off of a 200 watt amp and it's so great.

xplicitblitzboi on 04/17/2003 19:14:21
nice, i like boston, some people dont seem to like them, oh well, its all opinion mostly. so you have 4x6 plates with a 4" and a tweeter right?

Swez on 04/18/2003 07:29:57
Good choice.... you said "125 atthe tweeter?" Not sure what you mean there.

Do you mean that the HP filter on the amp is set @ 125 Hz? Most tweeters are crossed over by the passive crossover network or a cap. Typical tweeter range is 1.5-5.0 Khz, depending on the tweeter design size and power handling.

Swez

ttocs on 04/18/2003 17:50:43
he bought them at the store, Tweeter, for $125.

One of the cleanest cars I have ever listened to used boston. My sup at the time pulled it in and told me to get in. We sat there in the shop for a good 5 min just listening. They were nice.

Did the same with diamond audio, liked them just a tad more really.

xplicitblitzboi on 04/18/2003 18:08:35
i love diamond, ahhh, nothing compares to high quality audio equipment

schlsux on 04/18/2003 23:22:21
LOL yea the store Tweeter. Swez, always lookin for the tech stuff. not a bad thing just funny.

But plates are great, their the way to go. Cranked up the acoustics don't loose SQ and can almost make ur ears bleed.

Swez on 04/19/2003 07:18:00
Cool, I got it now.. Duh... nice price too!

Swez

ryan on 04/22/2003 21:58:59
Alright im takin ur guys idea. Im thinkin about gettin an alpine 4" with tweeter in the 4x6 plate. Im not sure of the model # but it will cost $110. I think they sound decent but will they last me and sound good and not distort when turned up. I have a pioneer DEH-P4400 last years model with a mosfet 50 internal amp. I can crank it up to 40 but my factory distort aorund 13 so any guess how good these speakers will be with out knowing the model #

compvr15s on 04/23/2003 10:52:39
any speakers you get are going to sound alot better than the factory set, im sure they will sound great, alpines always sound good. are you going for sound quality, if so the alpines are great, i used to have the pioneer deh7200 and it went to volume 63 i think, i used to run it at about 45 and no distortion of my mtx 4x6s, you should be all good. you might want to put a crossover on them. good luck

ryan on 04/25/2003 20:38:06
Im goin with the alpines. But should i get the 4" with tweeter in the 4x6 plate or a type s 5 1/4 " with a tweeter mounted in the middle of it? The 4x6 is $140 and the 5 1/4 is $80. Which would you guys recommend.

Swez on 04/26/2003 09:00:57
You may have a very challenging time fitting 5/4" w/ tweets in that dash location. Depending on the over all depth of that cavity you are working with, may be next to impossible unless you measure it out carefully and possiby do some cutting to fit them in.

Ryan, seems like you are going backwards a bit??? Started out looking at coaxial 4x6, then Alpine plates and now 5/4" Coaxials? Is this a cost reduction move or is better sounding front stage your goal?

I ask as most quality plate speakers use better crossovers and spealers. Therefore, will sound better than most Coaxials. Plates are as close to Component level speakers I know of.

Coaxials are fine for rear fill. But if you are truly "investing in a quality", your most important purchase... is the front stage speaker system . Then build off that with a good HU, rear fills and a good sub system. If you want more power, a few amps can always be added later.

A side comment... I know a guy that seems to get a great idea, changes his mind and goes to a cheap solution and found them to be terrible, then try a 2nd better but still inferior option... still not happy with the results, he finally went back to the original plan and is now very satisfied.

The problem: Instead of staying with his original plans and spending ~$150.00 for the good stuff, he ended up spending almost double that for 2 other sets that were less than adequate. That's about $300.00 and 3 installs worth of time. He is now very happy with his original plan... but look how much time and $$ he had to spend to get there.

In short, think of this kind of purchase as an investment. If you buy well the first time, won't be going back to the wallett for things you really wanted in the fist place. If we have to save a little bit longer or shop a bit harder to get what we really want... OK, so be it. But when done, you will have the satifaction of knowing you planned and created a great system you can enjoy for many years.

Am not getting on you Ryan... just trying to save you the hassles and trail and error process that leads to frustrations and more $$ spent later. BTDT... just passing on some news you can use now and the rest of your life.

Swez

ryan on 04/26/2003 13:18:51
Thanks swez i thought it over and im goin with the plate. I tell ya guys how they sound when i get on tonight. Thanks for everything.

ryan on 04/26/2003 22:44:20
It was worth the extra money. They sound great. Thanks again for all ur guys help.

Swez on 04/27/2003 14:09:10
Congrats there Ryan.... knew you would see the reasons behind the press... we all need a little nugge sometimes, to get off the fence.

Swez