2000 Chrysler neon, i removed my 4 cd changer and deck to see if there are any aux or line in jacks but there are none, now my deck doesn't "recognize" the cd changer even though it is receiving power and will load and eject cd's. i tried disconnecting and reconnecting the battery but deck still won't switch to cd changer.
what can i do ? please help !
Replies (5)
swez on 05/3/2009 18:50:48
Normally, a factory system is pretty much plug and play. In this case, something has gone wrong and I'm not sure what that might be.
What I would suggest, it disconnecting the Neg Battery terminal, (Allow about 5 minutes or more) and reconnect everything as before, then connect your battery terminal back up and see if it resets everything so the CD player and deck are now in sync again.
With luck, the circuits will sync and everything will work as it should.
Swez
darrylkerney on 05/4/2009 08:55:20
thanks for the reply swez,
that's pretty much what i was thinking.
i disconnected the positive battery post,
and didn't wait as long as you suggest but
i will try again as you said. i'm curious,
why the negative ? does it really matter which
terminal ? either way there is no power, is there
a reason i'm not aware of ?
i did notice that the changer powered up without the
key in the ignition when i plugged it back in, silly me,
i forgot to disconnect battery when i did all that,
i hope i didn't fry anything.
anyway, i will try your way and see what happens.
thanks again for the reply, i will post the results.
darryl.
swez on 05/4/2009 15:35:07
Neg or Pos is fine. The net affect is the same... no power to the electrical system. More of a habit and perhaps some misguided tales from my youth, but it sticks/works after all these many years. LOL
Good luck,
Swez
darrylkerney on 05/5/2009 12:02:31
well, i tried again using swez's suggestion, still no luck.
it seems like the changer powers up before the head unit, as soon as battery is reconnected, so i am wondering, should i have the accessory ON when i reconnect the battery ? so the head unit and changer power up at the same time ? or should i reconnect the changer when the head unit is already on, maybe not so safe though ?
i've worked over 20 years with Pro Audio gear and never seen a problem like this.
there must be some little trick to getting it working again, how else could anyone replace their factory cd changer ? i can't see it being damaged simply by removing it and then re-installing it. WHAT IF i had replaced the battery, seems to me i'd be in the same boat that way too, there would be no difference as far as what occurred.
the deck and changer were disconnected then reconnected, that's all.
i hope someone can answer this for me !
darryl.
swez on 05/5/2009 16:07:53
No luck huh? Bummer!
Hum, a fellow Pro Audio guy on the forum! CLAP
What form of Pro Audio do you work in? (DJ, Board man, Recording Studio, Live Music?) Yep, Pro systems are so much more robust than car audio gear. Not only that, but they are certified with various industry standards that mobile audio do not have to comply with. (Off brand and knock offs lie about their specs) The name brands seem to play by the rules and it's best to use them when possible.
Well, we know the CD player has power, but the logic and audio signals seem not to be talking to the deck or the part of the deck that handles that sequence is not doing its job. (CD preamp and logic circuits issues)
Am assuming the jacks are installed correctly as before as most systems are pretty much fool proof there. (Jack only fits when all pins line up properly like balanced line mike cables and such?) Have no idea why that would fail as noted, save for age and bumpy roads.
Looks like we're down to a limited options list now:
1. Have the units tested by an OEM Dealer and hope they know this problem well (Dealerships usually swap as they test and factory decks + labor are not cheap) They rarely repair anything these days... just swap parts and the customer pays big too.
2. Pull out the player and Deck and install a nice Aftermarket with the features desired (Aux Input for MP3 or I-Pod as your Aux Player)
3. Live w/o the CD player feature (Not so hot huh?)
Option #2 makes the most sense and in most cases, you can do the install on your own. It's also the best bang for your buck too. For under $250.00, you can get a nice Aftermarket deck and use a conversion harness to make the job easy. I don't know if this model uses factory amps or the Infinity Premium sound system upgrade, but the proper patch kits are available as needed. Here's the wiring color codes for a 2000 Dodge Neon:
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/stereodetail/4.html
How about this as an option?
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KDCX493/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X493.html?tp=5684
What do you think?
Swez
PS If you have burned CD's in the player now, try removing them and use a normal CD and see if the player reads and plays the CD. (This is a long-shot too, but easy to try) Perhaps the laser system is not reading the tracks properly and therefore, no audio playback from the CD player? (Laser alignment problems)
what can i do ? please help !
Replies (5)
swez on 05/3/2009 18:50:48
Normally, a factory system is pretty much plug and play. In this case, something has gone wrong and I'm not sure what that might be.
What I would suggest, it disconnecting the Neg Battery terminal, (Allow about 5 minutes or more) and reconnect everything as before, then connect your battery terminal back up and see if it resets everything so the CD player and deck are now in sync again.
With luck, the circuits will sync and everything will work as it should.
Swez
darrylkerney on 05/4/2009 08:55:20
thanks for the reply swez,
that's pretty much what i was thinking.
i disconnected the positive battery post,
and didn't wait as long as you suggest but
i will try again as you said. i'm curious,
why the negative ? does it really matter which
terminal ? either way there is no power, is there
a reason i'm not aware of ?
i did notice that the changer powered up without the
key in the ignition when i plugged it back in, silly me,
i forgot to disconnect battery when i did all that,
i hope i didn't fry anything.
anyway, i will try your way and see what happens.
thanks again for the reply, i will post the results.
darryl.
swez on 05/4/2009 15:35:07
Neg or Pos is fine. The net affect is the same... no power to the electrical system. More of a habit and perhaps some misguided tales from my youth, but it sticks/works after all these many years. LOL
Good luck,
Swez
darrylkerney on 05/5/2009 12:02:31
well, i tried again using swez's suggestion, still no luck.
it seems like the changer powers up before the head unit, as soon as battery is reconnected, so i am wondering, should i have the accessory ON when i reconnect the battery ? so the head unit and changer power up at the same time ? or should i reconnect the changer when the head unit is already on, maybe not so safe though ?
i've worked over 20 years with Pro Audio gear and never seen a problem like this.
there must be some little trick to getting it working again, how else could anyone replace their factory cd changer ? i can't see it being damaged simply by removing it and then re-installing it. WHAT IF i had replaced the battery, seems to me i'd be in the same boat that way too, there would be no difference as far as what occurred.
the deck and changer were disconnected then reconnected, that's all.
i hope someone can answer this for me !
darryl.
swez on 05/5/2009 16:07:53
No luck huh? Bummer!
Hum, a fellow Pro Audio guy on the forum! CLAP
What form of Pro Audio do you work in? (DJ, Board man, Recording Studio, Live Music?) Yep, Pro systems are so much more robust than car audio gear. Not only that, but they are certified with various industry standards that mobile audio do not have to comply with. (Off brand and knock offs lie about their specs) The name brands seem to play by the rules and it's best to use them when possible.
Well, we know the CD player has power, but the logic and audio signals seem not to be talking to the deck or the part of the deck that handles that sequence is not doing its job. (CD preamp and logic circuits issues)
Am assuming the jacks are installed correctly as before as most systems are pretty much fool proof there. (Jack only fits when all pins line up properly like balanced line mike cables and such?) Have no idea why that would fail as noted, save for age and bumpy roads.
Looks like we're down to a limited options list now:
1. Have the units tested by an OEM Dealer and hope they know this problem well (Dealerships usually swap as they test and factory decks + labor are not cheap) They rarely repair anything these days... just swap parts and the customer pays big too.
2. Pull out the player and Deck and install a nice Aftermarket with the features desired (Aux Input for MP3 or I-Pod as your Aux Player)
3. Live w/o the CD player feature (Not so hot huh?)
Option #2 makes the most sense and in most cases, you can do the install on your own. It's also the best bang for your buck too. For under $250.00, you can get a nice Aftermarket deck and use a conversion harness to make the job easy. I don't know if this model uses factory amps or the Infinity Premium sound system upgrade, but the proper patch kits are available as needed. Here's the wiring color codes for a 2000 Dodge Neon:
http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/stereodetail/4.html
How about this as an option?
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KDCX493/Kenwood-Excelon-KDC-X493.html?tp=5684
What do you think?
Swez
PS If you have burned CD's in the player now, try removing them and use a normal CD and see if the player reads and plays the CD. (This is a long-shot too, but easy to try) Perhaps the laser system is not reading the tracks properly and therefore, no audio playback from the CD player? (Laser alignment problems)
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