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SAD
Now, officially, the order is Swez, Bald Eagle Installer, & MrB as the oldest decrepit people in car audio.
Alma is 71
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newB on 03/20/2008 19:28:23
SAD
well... dang...
are you up to the task swez?
going to be kicking many more "young whipper snappers" out of your yard now
GRIN
-Drew
ttocs on 03/20/2008 21:07:00
wow. She is active on an insiders forum of mine and I had heard nothing about this. She posts some of the funniest jokes... She actually doesn't live to far from me, I had hopes to meet her someday.
swez on 03/21/2008 01:02:20
On a much smaller scale, I can see why Elma enjoyed this gig for 12 years and probably made a lot of friends too. This is a great hobby for those who can afford it and have a passion to do it well.
Drew... not too big on picking up this ball and running it down the field a few clicks further. Have no young bucks in the neighborhood that are much into car audio these days. The kids here are too young to drive and the older folks are pretty laid back or stuggling to make ends meet these days.
Yes, did help the kid next door when he got started and showed him the basics and his homies too. Everything was going pretty good until his parents divorced and his dad moved out and turned into a crack head. The lad turned very rebellious after that and it was easy to see why. (No self-control and Mom was just as bad) She just threw $$$ at him and was clueless on how to turn a pretty good kid into a responsible and cooperative young man. Hopefully he'll wise up, go to college and find a great path as he learns the ropes. (I dunno?)
As for car audio, it will change with the tides or take a backseat to I-Pods, Gamers and the text messaging craze. I too have shifted the hobby portfolio to another interest... "back to my roots"... the love of fishing. Now it's fly fishing with a back up to spinning gear.
It's a great hobby and lots to learn too. There's just something special about a night on the stream that whispers one back to nature. One can take it to any level they can afford and enjoy the solitude of watching the day critters call it a day while the creatures of the night come out to play.
The birds come home to roost and the bats take to the air to feed on bugs newly hatching. After dusk, the sky is full of bats as they feed on mosquitoes, mayflies and a whole host of other offerings that fill the air at night.
We often see deer, possum, racoons and other night animals moving about along the shorelines. The babies often create a good ruckus when they are learning to climb and hunt for food or play in the trees. Every so often, you'll hear one lose its footing and plop right into the water. That's a real hoot to watch too. They are such curious critters and love to explore their new world. (Little glowing eyes in the brush as we turn on a flashlight to tie on a new bug or land a nice catch)
Yeah, it's a great way to spend a few hours of down time after a long week at work. It's so quiet, peaceful and a great way to relax after long days of pounding the pavement, waiting on late customers and watching a bunch of wild-eyed teachers and administrators as they try to manage the unmanagable.
In all, life is good and spring is near too. The trout opener is just a few weeks away and time to tie a few new bugs, fix up the old leaky waders and spool on some new fly lines we bought over the winter. Yup, to this old fisherman, it's a call to get things in order and enjoy the warmer weather as it struggles to arrive.
Dang, the temps climbed to 45 degrees today and sunny all day. The ice is melting off the lakes and many of the streams and rivers are bloated from rain and melting snow/ice. That is an annual signal that better days are sure to come. Goodbye Old Man Winter... spring is just a few weeks out now and the thought of a wiley Rainbow or Brown trout on the business end of the fly rod is about to commence.
Can you tell where my mind is focused now?
Swez
newB on 03/21/2008 01:42:48
sound like a perfect hobby!!
i was a big fisher-kid when we spent four years in North Dakota, and still tried in Germany (but their laws are outrageous against it) and still hope i can find time to visit clear lake up in the rockies- friend has a small boat and i hear the fish are amazing
-Drew
swez on 03/21/2008 09:37:06
It's a great hobby if one has the patience to learn and practice the right things. One thing I have noticed, the price of quality gear is very high in this hobby. (Not as cheap as when I started fishing a lot back in the 70's)
The cost of a good fly rod, a decent reel and a well-mated line are very high at the retail sporting goods chains like Cabela's, Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shops. Heck, a guy can easily drop $1,000.00 to get outfitted well when shopping these places. That would include waders, a fishing vest, a good assortment of basic flies and poppers, a good flashlight, some appropriate clothing and other hardware one needs to complete the kit.
If you have not used a fly rod before, plan on a steep learning curve in the beginning. It's all about timing, line management and learning to detect the light strikes of timid trout or bass. Unlike spinning gear, (where the lure supplies the weight and the rod is the launching platform) fly lines supply the weigh and the rod is the launching platform for the line.
The bugs are often small and nearly weightless. However, when fishing for large bass, pike, suckers, carp and walleye, larger bugs are the rule of thumb. It takes a pretty stout rig, (#7,8 or even #10 rigs) to pitch these around and still maintain good casting accuracy.
A skilled fly guy can thread the eye of a needle, (Figureatively speaking) as he picks his targets. He knows the fish are hiding in the shoreline brush and tree falls. The trick is to get your bug in there close enough to entice them out of these hiding spots, but not land in the branches and have to walk into that zone to retrieve his bug. It's hard enough to get all that down in the light of day. Now, try it at night when it's very dark, minimal ambient light and it's all done by feel.
Get it right and one can cast into that tight spot for 30 minutes or more and pull out fish one after another. Get it wrong... we snag up, have to walk in and retrieve the bug or snap it off and re-tie.
What makes fly fishing such a challenge in the beginning, we have to learn line management skills that not only encompass getting bug where we want it, but also knowing what's behind us as well. When one has 25-40 feet of line in the air, we have to be very aware of the trees, bushes and other snags that can grab the bug during the back cast. That means monitoring a 180 degree arc of the line when we are fishing. One literally has to have eyes in the back of our heads and enough skill to use sidearm casts, tosing a bug high to low and low to high and even roll or spey casting to overcome obstacles.
These skills do not come over night. This season, we'll be practicing more of each. If you want to see a few short video clips about these types of casts, have a look here: (They look easy in the hands of a skilled fly guy... but they are not so easy to learn)
http://www.questoutdoors.net/skills/spey/video/
Swez COFFEE
MrBrownstone on 03/21/2008 12:31:18
Fishin'...the only good reason to get up before sunrise other than to be a judge at an all night wet t-shirt contest.
-Larry
swez on 03/21/2008 16:55:44
Actually, early AM fishing is not part of our normal routine. We generally work during the day and fish in the evening when time, weather and schedules permit. Have tried early AM fishing with generally poor to fair results. The stream hatches tend to come in the evenings and are the most productive times for fly fishing.
We, (Dale, twin brother and me) tend to be night owls by nature. However, this recent job schedule has modified that a lot. I get up most work days by 5:00 AM, map out the route for the day, download data to the GPS and am out the door by 7:15 AM. Dale has a different schedule and he may stay up late, mixing music for a pending CD or some other project. His day gig rarely puts him on the road before 9:00 AM.
On the other hand, am pretty well pooped after a long day on the road and servicing clients. Depending on the work load on any given day, it's typically 4-5 hours of face time with customers and the rest is drive time. (3-4 hours of that and 150-200 miles of road time, make for a long day... 7.5 - 9.0 hours is a long day for this old fart) But hey, am very glad to have a job in this present economy. It's not good to have too much "dead-air time" at this stage of life. For now, one learns to pace themselves and go with the flow when possible.
Oh, if you want to judge wet tee shirt contests, jump on a plane and head to Florida. It's almost Spring Break time for the college crowd and
plenty to see and do if that floats your boat. Or, just save the plane fare and hotel costs and tube up video details on myspace or youtube.com. Am sure there is plenty there to suit any bachelor's tastes if desired.
Better yet, find a steady girl and settle down for a long-term plan, have a few kids and then watch your hair turn gray as the years go by. It's not for every one, but knowing you... it would be a great kick to be a Dad. (Older kids... adults, love being around younger ones)
Once past the diaper stage and well into the pre-school to pre-teen years, kids are an absolute blast and we get to play like them too. Yes, we have to instill discipline, respect for authority and prepare them for various stages in life too, but that does not mean we cannot let the fun fly along the way either.
-Moe
SAD
Now, officially, the order is Swez, Bald Eagle Installer, & MrB as the oldest decrepit people in car audio.
Alma is 71
Replies (7)
newB on 03/20/2008 19:28:23
SAD
well... dang...
are you up to the task swez?
going to be kicking many more "young whipper snappers" out of your yard now
GRIN
-Drew
ttocs on 03/20/2008 21:07:00
wow. She is active on an insiders forum of mine and I had heard nothing about this. She posts some of the funniest jokes... She actually doesn't live to far from me, I had hopes to meet her someday.
swez on 03/21/2008 01:02:20
On a much smaller scale, I can see why Elma enjoyed this gig for 12 years and probably made a lot of friends too. This is a great hobby for those who can afford it and have a passion to do it well.
Drew... not too big on picking up this ball and running it down the field a few clicks further. Have no young bucks in the neighborhood that are much into car audio these days. The kids here are too young to drive and the older folks are pretty laid back or stuggling to make ends meet these days.
Yes, did help the kid next door when he got started and showed him the basics and his homies too. Everything was going pretty good until his parents divorced and his dad moved out and turned into a crack head. The lad turned very rebellious after that and it was easy to see why. (No self-control and Mom was just as bad) She just threw $$$ at him and was clueless on how to turn a pretty good kid into a responsible and cooperative young man. Hopefully he'll wise up, go to college and find a great path as he learns the ropes. (I dunno?)
As for car audio, it will change with the tides or take a backseat to I-Pods, Gamers and the text messaging craze. I too have shifted the hobby portfolio to another interest... "back to my roots"... the love of fishing. Now it's fly fishing with a back up to spinning gear.
It's a great hobby and lots to learn too. There's just something special about a night on the stream that whispers one back to nature. One can take it to any level they can afford and enjoy the solitude of watching the day critters call it a day while the creatures of the night come out to play.
The birds come home to roost and the bats take to the air to feed on bugs newly hatching. After dusk, the sky is full of bats as they feed on mosquitoes, mayflies and a whole host of other offerings that fill the air at night.
We often see deer, possum, racoons and other night animals moving about along the shorelines. The babies often create a good ruckus when they are learning to climb and hunt for food or play in the trees. Every so often, you'll hear one lose its footing and plop right into the water. That's a real hoot to watch too. They are such curious critters and love to explore their new world. (Little glowing eyes in the brush as we turn on a flashlight to tie on a new bug or land a nice catch)
Yeah, it's a great way to spend a few hours of down time after a long week at work. It's so quiet, peaceful and a great way to relax after long days of pounding the pavement, waiting on late customers and watching a bunch of wild-eyed teachers and administrators as they try to manage the unmanagable.
In all, life is good and spring is near too. The trout opener is just a few weeks away and time to tie a few new bugs, fix up the old leaky waders and spool on some new fly lines we bought over the winter. Yup, to this old fisherman, it's a call to get things in order and enjoy the warmer weather as it struggles to arrive.
Dang, the temps climbed to 45 degrees today and sunny all day. The ice is melting off the lakes and many of the streams and rivers are bloated from rain and melting snow/ice. That is an annual signal that better days are sure to come. Goodbye Old Man Winter... spring is just a few weeks out now and the thought of a wiley Rainbow or Brown trout on the business end of the fly rod is about to commence.
Can you tell where my mind is focused now?
Swez
newB on 03/21/2008 01:42:48
sound like a perfect hobby!!
i was a big fisher-kid when we spent four years in North Dakota, and still tried in Germany (but their laws are outrageous against it) and still hope i can find time to visit clear lake up in the rockies- friend has a small boat and i hear the fish are amazing
-Drew
swez on 03/21/2008 09:37:06
It's a great hobby if one has the patience to learn and practice the right things. One thing I have noticed, the price of quality gear is very high in this hobby. (Not as cheap as when I started fishing a lot back in the 70's)
The cost of a good fly rod, a decent reel and a well-mated line are very high at the retail sporting goods chains like Cabela's, Gander Mountain and Bass Pro Shops. Heck, a guy can easily drop $1,000.00 to get outfitted well when shopping these places. That would include waders, a fishing vest, a good assortment of basic flies and poppers, a good flashlight, some appropriate clothing and other hardware one needs to complete the kit.
If you have not used a fly rod before, plan on a steep learning curve in the beginning. It's all about timing, line management and learning to detect the light strikes of timid trout or bass. Unlike spinning gear, (where the lure supplies the weight and the rod is the launching platform) fly lines supply the weigh and the rod is the launching platform for the line.
The bugs are often small and nearly weightless. However, when fishing for large bass, pike, suckers, carp and walleye, larger bugs are the rule of thumb. It takes a pretty stout rig, (#7,8 or even #10 rigs) to pitch these around and still maintain good casting accuracy.
A skilled fly guy can thread the eye of a needle, (Figureatively speaking) as he picks his targets. He knows the fish are hiding in the shoreline brush and tree falls. The trick is to get your bug in there close enough to entice them out of these hiding spots, but not land in the branches and have to walk into that zone to retrieve his bug. It's hard enough to get all that down in the light of day. Now, try it at night when it's very dark, minimal ambient light and it's all done by feel.
Get it right and one can cast into that tight spot for 30 minutes or more and pull out fish one after another. Get it wrong... we snag up, have to walk in and retrieve the bug or snap it off and re-tie.
What makes fly fishing such a challenge in the beginning, we have to learn line management skills that not only encompass getting bug where we want it, but also knowing what's behind us as well. When one has 25-40 feet of line in the air, we have to be very aware of the trees, bushes and other snags that can grab the bug during the back cast. That means monitoring a 180 degree arc of the line when we are fishing. One literally has to have eyes in the back of our heads and enough skill to use sidearm casts, tosing a bug high to low and low to high and even roll or spey casting to overcome obstacles.
These skills do not come over night. This season, we'll be practicing more of each. If you want to see a few short video clips about these types of casts, have a look here: (They look easy in the hands of a skilled fly guy... but they are not so easy to learn)
http://www.questoutdoors.net/skills/spey/video/
Swez COFFEE
MrBrownstone on 03/21/2008 12:31:18
Fishin'...the only good reason to get up before sunrise other than to be a judge at an all night wet t-shirt contest.
-Larry
swez on 03/21/2008 16:55:44
Actually, early AM fishing is not part of our normal routine. We generally work during the day and fish in the evening when time, weather and schedules permit. Have tried early AM fishing with generally poor to fair results. The stream hatches tend to come in the evenings and are the most productive times for fly fishing.
We, (Dale, twin brother and me) tend to be night owls by nature. However, this recent job schedule has modified that a lot. I get up most work days by 5:00 AM, map out the route for the day, download data to the GPS and am out the door by 7:15 AM. Dale has a different schedule and he may stay up late, mixing music for a pending CD or some other project. His day gig rarely puts him on the road before 9:00 AM.
On the other hand, am pretty well pooped after a long day on the road and servicing clients. Depending on the work load on any given day, it's typically 4-5 hours of face time with customers and the rest is drive time. (3-4 hours of that and 150-200 miles of road time, make for a long day... 7.5 - 9.0 hours is a long day for this old fart) But hey, am very glad to have a job in this present economy. It's not good to have too much "dead-air time" at this stage of life. For now, one learns to pace themselves and go with the flow when possible.
Oh, if you want to judge wet tee shirt contests, jump on a plane and head to Florida. It's almost Spring Break time for the college crowd and
plenty to see and do if that floats your boat. Or, just save the plane fare and hotel costs and tube up video details on myspace or youtube.com. Am sure there is plenty there to suit any bachelor's tastes if desired.
Better yet, find a steady girl and settle down for a long-term plan, have a few kids and then watch your hair turn gray as the years go by. It's not for every one, but knowing you... it would be a great kick to be a Dad. (Older kids... adults, love being around younger ones)
Once past the diaper stage and well into the pre-school to pre-teen years, kids are an absolute blast and we get to play like them too. Yes, we have to instill discipline, respect for authority and prepare them for various stages in life too, but that does not mean we cannot let the fun fly along the way either.
-Moe
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