ok so remember i mentioned the misfortune of my deh-p9200r going up in smoke a few weeks ago....i vowed to not buy another one..well....i did it again....but i found a brand new in the box 9200r on ebay for 65 bucks....wires are uncut....everything is new in the plastic...even has a remote which i have been wanting......the only thing is that its missing the face.........someone stole that.......but i have that from my old one.....i know this unit is like 7 years old and these models have a problem with the display getting washed out when the sun is shining ...but i love this thing....its got all the features that i personally need in a deck....so now its back to ballin with the chevy truck project......im such a procrastinator....
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Ash on 08/19/2007 06:11:55
I feel ya! Sometimes it's hard getting past a good piece of equipment.
I used to have an Pioneer HU radio (can't remember what model) that had all the basic parametric EZ EQ features plus a separate listening position adjustment. It had frequency adjustments in between the selectable 40/80/100/160hz points of the EZ EQ which made it even more usable. The 60hz was the sweet spot for fine tuning almost all the systems I had to obtain a flatter response for good definition. There was another band in between the normal 200/500hz midband adjustment as well which worked very well.
The face started going out on it, so I let it go with the 240SX when I sold the car. Not to mention that I upgraded to something with wma/mp3 capabilities. Still I miss that HU for it was the most EQ versatile unit I ever owned. Not sure if they even made another one with that same feature without being overly expensive. Now the only option is a separate EQ,
trunkisloud on 08/19/2007 11:21:17
yea a lot of the pioneers have that.....i found it by accident by holding the audio button for 3 seconds.....but youre right....it really cleans up the sound.....
Ash on 08/19/2007 15:46:55
This was another feature besides the EZ EQ where there was another set of bands in between. It kind of made it a 5-7 band eq built in to the HU. I seen that same function later on in other Pioneers, but only the expensive ones.
swez on 08/19/2007 18:35:19
Yeah, that's the multi-band custom EQ feature for fine tuning and then EZ/EQ for general preference curves. It's a nice set of features if the presets work in a given system well. Some vehicles do very well with the combo. A few are much more effort.
Swez
trunkisloud on 08/19/2007 19:00:06
so with features like these.....would i gain anything from using a graphic eq...i mean i have the features on the deck...the comps have their own crossover....and the amp takes care of the sub.....what would a seperate eq be good for in this application?
Ash on 08/19/2007 19:37:25
Honestly, the EZ EQ is good for those that don't need much adjustment and/or want a limited amount of equipment installed. It's not perfect by far as some of the more important frequencies aren't included (30, 60, 300, etc). The eq's that had the most profound effect on adjustment included those (mostly 9 band).
Parametrics are okay if your'e just trying to target a certain peak/dip. If you have several within close range that need adjusting and you are running a simple 3 band parametric like Pioneer's, your going to have to settle.
Q factor (wide/narrow) matters as well since it might help, but it can also hurt too. Say if you need an 60hz peak tamed, all you can do is set the low to 40 or 80hz wide (2 W on HU) and hope it works. However, other frequencies in close proximity will be taken down as well, which may not be desired.
The only real way to know is to have your system RTA'd, or do some extensive auditioning with your ears.
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Ash on 08/19/2007 06:11:55
I feel ya! Sometimes it's hard getting past a good piece of equipment.
I used to have an Pioneer HU radio (can't remember what model) that had all the basic parametric EZ EQ features plus a separate listening position adjustment. It had frequency adjustments in between the selectable 40/80/100/160hz points of the EZ EQ which made it even more usable. The 60hz was the sweet spot for fine tuning almost all the systems I had to obtain a flatter response for good definition. There was another band in between the normal 200/500hz midband adjustment as well which worked very well.
The face started going out on it, so I let it go with the 240SX when I sold the car. Not to mention that I upgraded to something with wma/mp3 capabilities. Still I miss that HU for it was the most EQ versatile unit I ever owned. Not sure if they even made another one with that same feature without being overly expensive. Now the only option is a separate EQ,
trunkisloud on 08/19/2007 11:21:17
yea a lot of the pioneers have that.....i found it by accident by holding the audio button for 3 seconds.....but youre right....it really cleans up the sound.....
Ash on 08/19/2007 15:46:55
This was another feature besides the EZ EQ where there was another set of bands in between. It kind of made it a 5-7 band eq built in to the HU. I seen that same function later on in other Pioneers, but only the expensive ones.
swez on 08/19/2007 18:35:19
Yeah, that's the multi-band custom EQ feature for fine tuning and then EZ/EQ for general preference curves. It's a nice set of features if the presets work in a given system well. Some vehicles do very well with the combo. A few are much more effort.
Swez
trunkisloud on 08/19/2007 19:00:06
so with features like these.....would i gain anything from using a graphic eq...i mean i have the features on the deck...the comps have their own crossover....and the amp takes care of the sub.....what would a seperate eq be good for in this application?
Ash on 08/19/2007 19:37:25
Honestly, the EZ EQ is good for those that don't need much adjustment and/or want a limited amount of equipment installed. It's not perfect by far as some of the more important frequencies aren't included (30, 60, 300, etc). The eq's that had the most profound effect on adjustment included those (mostly 9 band).
Parametrics are okay if your'e just trying to target a certain peak/dip. If you have several within close range that need adjusting and you are running a simple 3 band parametric like Pioneer's, your going to have to settle.
Q factor (wide/narrow) matters as well since it might help, but it can also hurt too. Say if you need an 60hz peak tamed, all you can do is set the low to 40 or 80hz wide (2 W on HU) and hope it works. However, other frequencies in close proximity will be taken down as well, which may not be desired.
The only real way to know is to have your system RTA'd, or do some extensive auditioning with your ears.
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