Swez, what would you consider top of the for different parts of a system? I know that personal wants will determine what to look for in each piece of equipment, but what would you recomend for over all quality and performance for 6x9s, component sets, subs, and amps for each? I've been told Infinty Kappa series are quite good for 6x9s and components. Also, what would your recomend for 6x9s as far was 2-way vs 3-way?
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swez on 01/20/2007 14:45:04
Frankly, the best system is the one a person judges to be best to his/her ears and how much of a budget they have available helps to a degree. I'd have to agree that Infinity Kappa's are a very good product for the money. After installing several pairs for others, (Comps and coaxials) I find them very accurate and reasonably priced.
We tend to advocate high end componets up in the front stage and either midbass or good quality 2-ways in the rear. Either way, amping makes a big difference and a good HU with adequate EQ functions, can really do a lot to shape what we hear on the whole. Many of us prefer the smooth and natural sound of silk or cloth dome tweeters. Metal domes tend to be good in the back speakers, to cut through the bass.
After listening to many 3-way and 4-way speakers, many of us tend to agree that performance, (Accuracy) is often degraded over good 2-way speakers as they tend to use cheap element drivers and poor quality crossovers. (Flashy perhaps, but not very accurate)
Yes, we can buy Focal, Diamond Hex, MB Quartz, Rainbow, Eclipse and CDT Euro's... but does that extra expensed really equate to superior performance? In most cases, Not really, (It's more like braggin rights) who cares right?
Many of us have had very good results with well known brands like Infinity Kappa's, CDT HD series, Polk, JBL's GTO series, Alpine and Blaupunkt. Some careful shopping will always net better prices. But there is no short cut to careful listening, installation, EQ and dialing in amp gains and crossovers.
Finally, for rear stage 6x9's, many prefer a good set of 2-ways. These are good for accurate MB, midrange and highs. They also tend to sound best when sealed enclosures are used. (0.25 - 0.4 cf/speaker) seems to be a good fit for most brands.
Comments?
Swez
cplkittle on 01/20/2007 22:07:09
I wouldn't recommend the top brands that Swez mentioned unless you go all out front to back. If you have a $20 flea market HU, $60 stinger expert series RCAs, a $600 Diamond 100x4 amp, and $800 focal components. All of that high dollar equiptment will reproduce in fine detail the trash that the HU produces - nothing more.
ravin on 01/20/2007 23:32:08
Good point Kit! Your system is only as strong as it's weakest link.
Dutaylor33 on 01/24/2007 01:13:57
Umm I would highly seggest staying away from 6x9s they sound good but they are not components first of all thay are at the bottom of a mid range speaker. I would go with a pair of 6-1/2" I cant say Ive ever gone to a audio show and anyone have 6x9s and if u do go with a pair of 61/2" make sure they have a components which are the little 1 inch speakers that ty in with the 61/2
ttocs on 01/24/2007 09:28:45
nothing wrong with 8 x 9's. They make more then a few now as well that have the tweeter on a seperate circuit of an external x-over, just like a componant.
cplkittle on 01/24/2007 16:53:25
8x9's ?
that reminds me of my goal in life... I have seen round, oval, triangle, square, pent, and hex shaped speakers. I am going to build a 3d sphere speaker before I die. A bubble if you will that eminates in all directions v/s linear directional speakers. some high end tweeters are halfway there already with the dome shape, I'm just going to finish the job.
Victor on 01/24/2007 16:54:57
making a spherical cone wont be a big issue, but making a motor that distributes pressure equally along 360' would be a task...
cplkittle on 01/24/2007 19:41:00
I was thinking something along the lines of a pressurized 'balloon' as a passive radiator. It would have to be a high xmax, very responsive driver. The problem is going to be finding a way to make the balloon produce the sound and not the driver beneath.
I am going to experiment with that design and a 'disco ball' made up of multiple small drivers.
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swez on 01/20/2007 14:45:04
Frankly, the best system is the one a person judges to be best to his/her ears and how much of a budget they have available helps to a degree. I'd have to agree that Infinity Kappa's are a very good product for the money. After installing several pairs for others, (Comps and coaxials) I find them very accurate and reasonably priced.
We tend to advocate high end componets up in the front stage and either midbass or good quality 2-ways in the rear. Either way, amping makes a big difference and a good HU with adequate EQ functions, can really do a lot to shape what we hear on the whole. Many of us prefer the smooth and natural sound of silk or cloth dome tweeters. Metal domes tend to be good in the back speakers, to cut through the bass.
After listening to many 3-way and 4-way speakers, many of us tend to agree that performance, (Accuracy) is often degraded over good 2-way speakers as they tend to use cheap element drivers and poor quality crossovers. (Flashy perhaps, but not very accurate)
Yes, we can buy Focal, Diamond Hex, MB Quartz, Rainbow, Eclipse and CDT Euro's... but does that extra expensed really equate to superior performance? In most cases, Not really, (It's more like braggin rights) who cares right?
Many of us have had very good results with well known brands like Infinity Kappa's, CDT HD series, Polk, JBL's GTO series, Alpine and Blaupunkt. Some careful shopping will always net better prices. But there is no short cut to careful listening, installation, EQ and dialing in amp gains and crossovers.
Finally, for rear stage 6x9's, many prefer a good set of 2-ways. These are good for accurate MB, midrange and highs. They also tend to sound best when sealed enclosures are used. (0.25 - 0.4 cf/speaker) seems to be a good fit for most brands.
Comments?
Swez
cplkittle on 01/20/2007 22:07:09
I wouldn't recommend the top brands that Swez mentioned unless you go all out front to back. If you have a $20 flea market HU, $60 stinger expert series RCAs, a $600 Diamond 100x4 amp, and $800 focal components. All of that high dollar equiptment will reproduce in fine detail the trash that the HU produces - nothing more.
ravin on 01/20/2007 23:32:08
Good point Kit! Your system is only as strong as it's weakest link.
Dutaylor33 on 01/24/2007 01:13:57
Umm I would highly seggest staying away from 6x9s they sound good but they are not components first of all thay are at the bottom of a mid range speaker. I would go with a pair of 6-1/2" I cant say Ive ever gone to a audio show and anyone have 6x9s and if u do go with a pair of 61/2" make sure they have a components which are the little 1 inch speakers that ty in with the 61/2
ttocs on 01/24/2007 09:28:45
nothing wrong with 8 x 9's. They make more then a few now as well that have the tweeter on a seperate circuit of an external x-over, just like a componant.
cplkittle on 01/24/2007 16:53:25
8x9's ?
that reminds me of my goal in life... I have seen round, oval, triangle, square, pent, and hex shaped speakers. I am going to build a 3d sphere speaker before I die. A bubble if you will that eminates in all directions v/s linear directional speakers. some high end tweeters are halfway there already with the dome shape, I'm just going to finish the job.
Victor on 01/24/2007 16:54:57
making a spherical cone wont be a big issue, but making a motor that distributes pressure equally along 360' would be a task...
cplkittle on 01/24/2007 19:41:00
I was thinking something along the lines of a pressurized 'balloon' as a passive radiator. It would have to be a high xmax, very responsive driver. The problem is going to be finding a way to make the balloon produce the sound and not the driver beneath.
I am going to experiment with that design and a 'disco ball' made up of multiple small drivers.
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