i am gettin a panasonic HU-
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=pancqc7203u&store=&catid=317
and 2 alpine subs-
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=alpswr1222d&store=&catid=369
so im wonderin what other stuff im gonna need. i was talkin to a stereo place around here and they said i would need an interface, i have no idea why or what an interface is. any clue?
Replies (8)
emoboywyl on 09/10/2006 23:10:17
#1. How much money are you looking to spend on an amp?
#2. Are you just going to amp the sub, or are you going to/already have replaced your mids/highs and are planning on amping them as well.
#3. Does your car have the Monsoon sound system?
#4. Are you planning on installing this yourself, or taking it to a shop to install?
#5. What is your overall plan for your system, where do you see yourself going with it?
I think that's a good start for now. =)
BTW: Your car is on my top ten cars that are a pain to replace the HU. You basically have to take the entire dash apart to do it right.
For now I can tell you that you're a special GM interface. They're like $80, and necessary. The way the late model GM cars are made you'll loose some of your audible warning signals if you don't use it, it can also mess up your airbags, and create a pain with your electrical system. And you'll need a dash kit as well to integrate your new HU into your factory deck location, and an antenna adaptor.
For your amp and subs, you'll need your box, of course. And an amp kit (easiest option), the size would be dependant on what amp/how many you decide upon.
tigersallstar on 09/11/2006 00:18:45
#1- under or around 200
#2-just subs
#3-i dont think so, but idk what it is.
#4-well, now that i kno it is difficult i will most likely take it to a shop.
#5-i want people to hear me when i drive by, my brothers friend spent some serious cash on his and it is LOUD. i wish mine would be but i dont think i have enough money, so im tryin to get a loud one w/o spendin so much.
what is an antenna adaptor? and. what is in an amp kit?
thanks.
emoboywyl on 09/11/2006 02:15:55
ok, I'll try and break it down some more for ya...
Just because I say it's a pain, doesn't mean it's difficult, just a pain. =) There are like 12 screws that need to come out, and they're all over the place. Some car's the trim around the radio comes off easy, it's a quick and simple job. Some, like yours, are a little more complicated. Don't let a little hard work discourage you, it's really a lot of fun, and you get to know your car better, which can be a blast.
Your car has a different andtenna plug than aftermarket radio's, the antenna adaptor just makes the factory antenna fit into the aftermarket HU.
An amp kit is all the wiring, RCA's, connectors and a fuse, it's everything you need to install an amp, minus the tools.
If you want the music as a whole to be loud and clear, so that people "on the street" can hear you, you'll need to install aftermarket speakers and amp them as well. My car can be hear quite a ways away clearly. But I'll stick to your plan about the bass for right now for you.
Here's what I got so far for amps in your price range, although I'm sure more people will chime in as well... I don't know much about this amp, but it definatly has an interesting look to it, and I heard the excelon series was decent. It's a little more than you wanted but it's quality.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17203
The problem is that you're looking at pushing 1000W RMS into those subs, which are really decent. A good amp is going to be a little pricy, but if you want loud, clean sound, it's worth spending a little extra and being extra happy, than spending a little less and being unhappy.
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 17:25:57
You have made some good choices so far. You are using the Dual 2ohm voice coils, which gives you several options on amplifiers, you can run ea. sub @ 1ohm and use 2 1ohm stable class D amps: such as a Diamond D4600.1. Another option is to wire the subs voice coils in series for a 4ohm impedence on ea. sub and use a high powered 4 channel amp as a 2 channel amp bridging channels 1&2 and 3&4. You could also find a high powered Class D amp and wire the coils in series and the subs in parallel for 2ohm impedence. Check out this: http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1977925 this amp would work perfect. I would do a search for these amps, but overstock.com had the best prices I could find.
less
Victor on 09/11/2006 17:33:26
Hey less.. its good to see u after a long long time.. wassup..??
by the way, am hearing this name of amplifiers for the first time, looked on it on the net, cudnt find much info on the manufacturer and other products..
care to share a link to their website or other details..
Victor..
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 21:22:36
Actually, I can never find a link myself for the manufacturer myself. I have been trying to research them. They are kind of like KOVE(a company created by some disgruntled techs previously @ Audiobahn/Digital Audio that went and created their own company producing very well built equipment) They made amps and subs which were considered junk on many forums just b/c of lack of knowledge, it was actually really good equipment at a very reasonable price....kind of like US Acousitcs. I want to say Concept produced them, but the actual design and building was an independant source that remained anonymous. I will do some more research, but I can tell you, I have seen one of the mono blocks in action, the 1500 and it fried the voice coils of 2 Kicker Solo Baric 15's on one 30 sec. burst. the amps are beasts and since the only places that stock them are outlet and wholesale dealers, you are getting great prices...$183 and some change( including S&H) for an 800 wRMS amp that is very well made and seriously under rated is a steal. If you compare other amps in the same wattage and quality class....you would pay 3 times that. It is like getting Audison for Crunch prices...LOL.....
less
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 22:43:28
OK, here is some updated info on the Mark Antony amps. These were built independantly by the same tech design crew that design US Amps, which are also very good, but very pricey. The amps were extremely under rated b/c they were rated @ like 12.5 volts and the ratings were very conservative. The amps were popular on the West coast competition circuit b/c they were basically cheater amps, an 800.1 dropped to 1/2 ohm
w/ an input voltage of 13.8 volts could produce 3200 watts, the 1500.1 dropped to 1ohm could produce well over 3000 watts. these amps are powerhouses and are very well made. I suggest that if you are looking for a very good amp, that you buy these up. Overstock.com is the only place that has these left in stock.
less
Victor on 09/12/2006 03:15:31
no wonder they are named "OverStock"....GRIN
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=pancqc7203u&store=&catid=317
and 2 alpine subs-
http://www.etronics.com/product.asp?stk_code=alpswr1222d&store=&catid=369
so im wonderin what other stuff im gonna need. i was talkin to a stereo place around here and they said i would need an interface, i have no idea why or what an interface is. any clue?
Replies (8)
emoboywyl on 09/10/2006 23:10:17
#1. How much money are you looking to spend on an amp?
#2. Are you just going to amp the sub, or are you going to/already have replaced your mids/highs and are planning on amping them as well.
#3. Does your car have the Monsoon sound system?
#4. Are you planning on installing this yourself, or taking it to a shop to install?
#5. What is your overall plan for your system, where do you see yourself going with it?
I think that's a good start for now. =)
BTW: Your car is on my top ten cars that are a pain to replace the HU. You basically have to take the entire dash apart to do it right.
For now I can tell you that you're a special GM interface. They're like $80, and necessary. The way the late model GM cars are made you'll loose some of your audible warning signals if you don't use it, it can also mess up your airbags, and create a pain with your electrical system. And you'll need a dash kit as well to integrate your new HU into your factory deck location, and an antenna adaptor.
For your amp and subs, you'll need your box, of course. And an amp kit (easiest option), the size would be dependant on what amp/how many you decide upon.
tigersallstar on 09/11/2006 00:18:45
#1- under or around 200
#2-just subs
#3-i dont think so, but idk what it is.
#4-well, now that i kno it is difficult i will most likely take it to a shop.
#5-i want people to hear me when i drive by, my brothers friend spent some serious cash on his and it is LOUD. i wish mine would be but i dont think i have enough money, so im tryin to get a loud one w/o spendin so much.
what is an antenna adaptor? and. what is in an amp kit?
thanks.
emoboywyl on 09/11/2006 02:15:55
ok, I'll try and break it down some more for ya...
Just because I say it's a pain, doesn't mean it's difficult, just a pain. =) There are like 12 screws that need to come out, and they're all over the place. Some car's the trim around the radio comes off easy, it's a quick and simple job. Some, like yours, are a little more complicated. Don't let a little hard work discourage you, it's really a lot of fun, and you get to know your car better, which can be a blast.
Your car has a different andtenna plug than aftermarket radio's, the antenna adaptor just makes the factory antenna fit into the aftermarket HU.
An amp kit is all the wiring, RCA's, connectors and a fuse, it's everything you need to install an amp, minus the tools.
If you want the music as a whole to be loud and clear, so that people "on the street" can hear you, you'll need to install aftermarket speakers and amp them as well. My car can be hear quite a ways away clearly. But I'll stick to your plan about the bass for right now for you.
Here's what I got so far for amps in your price range, although I'm sure more people will chime in as well... I don't know much about this amp, but it definatly has an interesting look to it, and I heard the excelon series was decent. It's a little more than you wanted but it's quality.
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17203
The problem is that you're looking at pushing 1000W RMS into those subs, which are really decent. A good amp is going to be a little pricy, but if you want loud, clean sound, it's worth spending a little extra and being extra happy, than spending a little less and being unhappy.
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 17:25:57
You have made some good choices so far. You are using the Dual 2ohm voice coils, which gives you several options on amplifiers, you can run ea. sub @ 1ohm and use 2 1ohm stable class D amps: such as a Diamond D4600.1. Another option is to wire the subs voice coils in series for a 4ohm impedence on ea. sub and use a high powered 4 channel amp as a 2 channel amp bridging channels 1&2 and 3&4. You could also find a high powered Class D amp and wire the coils in series and the subs in parallel for 2ohm impedence. Check out this: http://www.overstock.com/?page=proframe&prod_id=1977925 this amp would work perfect. I would do a search for these amps, but overstock.com had the best prices I could find.
less
Victor on 09/11/2006 17:33:26
Hey less.. its good to see u after a long long time.. wassup..??
by the way, am hearing this name of amplifiers for the first time, looked on it on the net, cudnt find much info on the manufacturer and other products..
care to share a link to their website or other details..
Victor..
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 21:22:36
Actually, I can never find a link myself for the manufacturer myself. I have been trying to research them. They are kind of like KOVE(a company created by some disgruntled techs previously @ Audiobahn/Digital Audio that went and created their own company producing very well built equipment) They made amps and subs which were considered junk on many forums just b/c of lack of knowledge, it was actually really good equipment at a very reasonable price....kind of like US Acousitcs. I want to say Concept produced them, but the actual design and building was an independant source that remained anonymous. I will do some more research, but I can tell you, I have seen one of the mono blocks in action, the 1500 and it fried the voice coils of 2 Kicker Solo Baric 15's on one 30 sec. burst. the amps are beasts and since the only places that stock them are outlet and wholesale dealers, you are getting great prices...$183 and some change( including S&H) for an 800 wRMS amp that is very well made and seriously under rated is a steal. If you compare other amps in the same wattage and quality class....you would pay 3 times that. It is like getting Audison for Crunch prices...LOL.....
less
lessismorespl on 09/11/2006 22:43:28
OK, here is some updated info on the Mark Antony amps. These were built independantly by the same tech design crew that design US Amps, which are also very good, but very pricey. The amps were extremely under rated b/c they were rated @ like 12.5 volts and the ratings were very conservative. The amps were popular on the West coast competition circuit b/c they were basically cheater amps, an 800.1 dropped to 1/2 ohm
w/ an input voltage of 13.8 volts could produce 3200 watts, the 1500.1 dropped to 1ohm could produce well over 3000 watts. these amps are powerhouses and are very well made. I suggest that if you are looking for a very good amp, that you buy these up. Overstock.com is the only place that has these left in stock.
less
Victor on 09/12/2006 03:15:31
no wonder they are named "OverStock"....GRIN
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