i got a 01 cavalier and im gettin a panasonic (http://www.kmart.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=155034&N=0&Nty=1&Ntk=All&Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Ntt=panasonic%20CQ-C7303U&from=search) indash to put in. im wonderin if anyone has any idea of some speakers or subs i should put in. and some tips on puttin them in would be helpful..
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swez on 07/28/2006 08:31:53
That HU has some nice features and a very good price is available if you care to shop around. It's a good starter kit and can easily be juiced up with amplification. The internal amps deliver a decent 18 watts RMS per channel, (4 channels) has a good EQ system and 3 pair of RCA outputs to feed various amp configurations. For more details, have a look at this:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&tab=detailed_info&i=133C7303#Tab
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=133C7303 ($209.99 after rebate)
Less cost if you shop it here:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-41,GGLG:en&q=Panasonic+CQC7303U
You mentioned speakers and a sub as possible options right? OK, that requires outboard amplification, to get the most out of any sound system. Care to expand on your intentions and give some ballpark budgetary figures?
To get you into a very nice position later, consider quality speakers for the next purchase. This is the most important choice toward what results you will actually hear. Does your current vehicle have the MONSOON audio package in it now?
FYI: According to Crutchfield, this HU is not a perfect drop in fit for your dash. It may be as simple as a few slight modifications or more complex. Before you buy this HU, let one of our Pro Installers give you the low-down on installing steps needed to make this item fit in your specific vehicle. It might be the angled display on this product that is throwing a red flag for this specific car or something less difficult to work around.
If you want something that will drop right in and has plenty of nice features as well, consider the following as this one does fit:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=130DEHP680&g=300
Comments?
Swez
Ash on 07/30/2006 11:51:43
This auto has 4x6" in the front doors with 6x9" in the back deck, right?
If you plan on adding a amp, you might want to look into some 4x6" plates which will handle more power along with better sound. These are essentially component sets as some even have swivel and/or removable tweeters. Depending on the model chosen, a 50rms per channel amp will do fine.
As for the rear, a matching set of coaxials will do fine for simple rear fill. Amping them is not important for it will be easy for them to overpower the fronts. If ran off a amp (4 channel) keeping the rear gains down below the fronts will work fine as well.
Subs? You will have to come up with a budget along with system tastes to fill this void.
swez on 07/31/2006 01:48:05
Hummm, looks like we are talking to ourselves here Ash. Am wondering if Luke lost his way back to CK or just reading the mail and chewing on it a while???
Swez
Ash on 07/31/2006 06:50:34
Well heck, I do that all the time! It keeps the boss off my back! GRIN
swez on 07/31/2006 10:30:53
Might as well talk to ourselves, especially if one happens to be the sharpest tool in the box available.
In my case, that ain't saying too much. Ain't no sharp tools to be found in or outside of the box of late. In fact, I cannot seem to even find the tool box I need at the moment. Now ain't that a sticky whicket? GRIN
Swez
PS Ever feel like you're in one of those bad movies where the guy is up "Poop's Creek", (in a canoe) with no paddles, no ores and not even a spoon? (Indiana Jones theme music blaring in from your cell phone) Only one thing to do... just go with the flow until one finds a overhanging tree and climbs out from this mess.
swez on 08/6/2006 11:34:21
Lukeduke post transfer from 8/6/06:
Year Make Model: 2001 chevy cavalier
hey, sorry about not answerin your replies.. i forgot i posted that until a little while ago.. anyways
to answer some questions.. my sub budget is about 60-100, i dont think my car has a monsoon sound system, and it would be Extremely helpful if i could find out how easy it would be to fit that HU in my car..
well im not sure when ill check this, but any help at all will be helpful..thanks
swez on 08/6/2006 12:00:13
Luke,
OK, we need to make a plan of attack for your install. You had mentioned getting an Aftermarket HU, earlier in this post.
If you just want to add a sub and amplifier, you can still use the factory HU for now. (If it has adequate features and power, that is) However, if the budget only allows $100.00 for a sub, amp and wiring hardware, you'll not get much for that amount of "investment".
OK, we've got a general plan for you... " You are a learning newbie". No problem with that. CK is a newbie friendly site, PG rated and welcome to our little space on the Web.
Would like you to think long term and "Big Picture" about your audio goals for the moment. That is, "When I finished my entire project here, what will be in the plan?" This help you map out your ultimate goals early in the game and then take "guided steps" as needed, to accomplish the long term goal, one step at a time. This has a fancy name... "Strategic Planning".
We (Golds especially), preach a very systematic form of doctrine here. It's very simple and we break each project into small, bite sized chucks. It's easier to understand for the beginner and less overwhelming too.
Things to consider: (Strategic Plan Overview)
1. What are my "Ultimate Plans" for this project?
2. What devices and componets should I buy?
3. What sequence of install steps should be used as we go along the path?
4. What gear & hardware will give the best bang for my $$?
5. How do I install each item? (Integrating the small steps)
6. When all is installed, how to dial everything in for best possible reults?
See the concept here? CK has a lot of great talent available to guide you through each step and phases. We can show you great deals on quality gear and walk you through the install process as well. It is very important to do YOUR homework up front, BEFORE BUYING ANYTHING !!! That way, you'll get the best possible gear, great results and only buy a given item 1 time. We'll guide you through each step... but pay attention and ask ??'s if unsure.
Finally, consider this as "transferrable investment". You can install as much or as little as needed now and if you sell this car, it can all come out and be transplanted into your next ride. (In most cases) This method allows one to buy the good stuff only once, enjoy the results and change vehicles with minimal time and extra $$ being spent as we transfer.
Got all that?
Swez
PS Save all your stock stuff (Factory equipment) as you upgrade. These can be re-installed before selling the car. Yes, it's a bit of a pain to do so. But, if you added some very nice upgrade speakers, amp(s) wiring and an Aftermarket HU, (HU = Radio or player) you keep the good stuff and use it for the next install. This can save a lot of $$$ in the long run.
swez on 08/6/2006 12:15:45
OK, we have a basic outline of what can be done over time for your system. Now, you can start with a very basic sub and amp upgrade and use the exsisting speakers and Radio in your car for now.
Frankly, $100.00 is going to buy a "flea market" special at best. If you want some decent thump, a single 10-12" sub, a sealed or ported enclosure and say 300 watts (RMS) amp can be done pretty cheap. (but not that cheaply) If you can see a reasonable budget number closer to about $250.00, am sure we can come up with a few items that should do a good job now and later.
Where would you like to start first? (HU, sub/amp, speaker upgrades?)
Swez
lukeduke28 on 08/6/2006 16:15:17
well.. im not really sure, i want a HU because it looks better than the one in there now. but you said that i could still use the factory HU so im not sure. not to mention it doesnt fit..
i want a sub/amp so it will bump, but that is soundin expensive..
and speakers will make it sound better but i have no clue how to wire them in and stuff..
swez on 08/6/2006 17:03:16
OK, seems like a little "cognitive reasoning" is in order here. (Thinking it all through)
Pick the statements that best fits your budget: (Budget is: $$'s???)
1. I want a "good HU" (under $200.00)
2. I want a decent sub system (approx $200.00)
3. I can do w/o a new HU for now, but want a sub system
4. I can do w/o a sub system now, but want a good HU
This will establish a "priority list" of things to buy, both now and later.
Once we have this issue sorted out, then we can look at speakers for your car too.
Expensive? Yes, life and owning a car are expensive. The best way to manage life and all that will come at us later, is to have a game plan, priorities and a few good coaches to help us along the path. We can help you with the sorting out process and all you have to focus on is getting a steady flow of cash and finding good deals.
Comments?
Swez
PS QUOTE: " but you said that i could still use the factory HU so im not sure. not to mention it doesnt fit.."
What does not fit? Your factory HU or a different model that you have now? (Please explain)
lukeduke28 on 08/6/2006 19:30:05
the panasonic one i talked about earlier...
i have a question, if i get a sub system would it run and sound good w/o a HU?
Ash on 08/6/2006 19:53:50
Upgrades are never really simple as your' never really through. The best way to do it is to simply add what your missing.
For instance, your stock system is loud enough with low distortion at a decent volume. Midbass is okay but overall the system lacks low end. Answer: add a low to medium power sub and amp.
Instance 2: You have a premium stock speakers with decent overall sound. When you crank it though, your running out of power early. Solution: change to a higher power HU and possibly some capacitors to improve driver output, or an use a outboard amp with high level inputs and crossovers to minimize driver distortion & burnout.
3: Your stock speakers sound good and get loud, but there is no high end clarity/sizzle. Add a set of add on tweets to bring up the highs and clear things up.
4. Your stock speakers just sounds nasty. Change to some efficient aftermarket speakers to clean things up (drivers are the most important upgrade as they are the signal converters).
Just some examples of simple, cost effective things you can do if you can't wait until the whole shabang. You just have to figure out what is missing from how you want it to sound. Also, be smart with the upgrades. Make sure that other components can be easily be integrated when needed.
swez on 08/7/2006 08:22:11
Looked up that Panasonic HU (Radio/CD player) and according to Cruchfield, it does not fit your vehicle. With some modifications to the dash pocket, you might be able to improve the looks of the install and make it fit better. But it may take skills and tools of a Pro installer to do this well.
Can you return it to K-Mart and get your money back? (K-Mart has always had a very generous return policy) That would make sense for the moment, if you kept the Factory radio and can reinstall it for now. With the money you get back from the return, you can either buy a sub and amp kit now, or look for a HU that does fit and has the features needed, so you can add additional items later.
Swez
PS Noted you are very young and this is a learning experience we all have to go through. But one thing you can do as you learn, is to get good information from knowledgable people here at CK. We can help you avoid common mistakes and get great results the first time out.
In short, ask for guidance "BEFORE" making a purchase. This will make life a lot easier, when we ask skilled and experienced people how to do the job well. Notice how 2 good guys are trying to help you now? There's a few more people here (at CK) that can lead you along if you need them.
lukeduke28 on 08/7/2006 13:29:47
well, i havent purchased it yet.. thats alot of money for me and i wasnt gonna buy it until i knew that is was what i want and that it is a good start
if i do buy anything im probably goin to have someone that knows what theyre doin put it in.. simply because i dont know what im doin and i want it to be done right. and i dont trust myself to do it well..
would a sub/amp sound good runnin on the factory radio?
Ash on 08/7/2006 18:27:02
It can sound decent enough, it just depends on what combo you use. Amplified Bazooka tubes and bass engines alike are most often used to add bass to a factory setup. It is not a bad route "if the stock setup sounds good enough already".
Like Swez says, "think this through". Ask yourself: What am I trying to accomplish and what am I missing from that now?
Set a target, then strive to meet that goal. Even if it's "baby" steps. I don't know of that many people that have done it all at once and usually they are the smarter ones. Having patience means that you have time to examine progress you have made and smartfully knowing what next step to take.
swez on 08/7/2006 19:18:19
Amen Brother Ash!!! Well said and I agree.
Yes, that Panasonic HU is not a best fit match to your vehicle. If you have not bought it yet... cool. We can help you find one that will fit when your budget permits.
As Ash said, Bazooka Powered Bass tubes actually do a pretty good job adding some bass to a stock system. A single 10" sub, ported tube and 100-200 watts is not a bad start.
Let's see what's on the Web that meets your budget:
http://www.techronics.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=2680&aff=45847
($198.35 + S/H)
This system only needs a power line, ground wire, speaker level inputs off the rear deck speakers and a remote amp turn on signal wire. Pretty basic and we can walk you through the install from A-Z.
If you want to read and learn more about how to install and use this product, read the manual over a few times until you feel confident that you can do it.
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/204/204BTA1010.PDF
FYI: We are big on Do It Yourself at CK. It helps folks in many ways:
1. Cuts over all cost of the project (25-50% savings)
2. Learn how things work (Very good skills to have)
3. Learn by doing the job with guided assistance (Not on your own here)
4. A valuable sense of accomplishment (Hey, I did this myself !!!)
5. Builds self-confidence and learn to tackle new things we once thought were well beyond our skills (Very good for the self-esteem)
6. Once you get a few projects done well, you have a bunch of buddies you can now help and make money to fund your own projects
(A very good way to make a few extra $$'s as we learn)
This sub/amp combo is a very good price and if you are comfortable with e-bay, should be able to beat that price too.
What say you Luke?
Swez
PS Don't be shy... You're among friends. We want to help you succeed!!! SMILE If you don't mind a little crawling around in this car and want to learn how to do things yourself, we can help.
lilschtive on 08/7/2006 20:03:02
Hey there. I would reccomend this subwoofer, as its a ported 10 in a single box, and not a bad price!
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-TS-WX101-10-SUBWOOFER-CAR-SUB-IN-ENCLOSURE-BOX_W0QQitemZ300014649879QQihZ020QQcategoryZ50571QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If i did my research right, this amp would be sufficient: http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-GM-3200T-300W-2-Channel-Car-Amplifier-Amp-NEW_W0QQitemZ300014029139QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39736QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Those are my 2 bits. Hopefully that throws some ideas out there. good luck.
lukeduke28 on 08/7/2006 21:33:35
does the bazooka tube need an amp? cuz it is still a little bit too much and with an amp would be way too much..
i guess i could try to do it myself...but i seriously have NO clue what im doin.. but hey, i like a good challenge. and i would like to get to know this stuff, it would be cool to talk to people about it and know what im talkin about
would i get a better sound if i saved up to get a HU, sub and amp instead of keepin the factory radio and gettin a bazooka tube? because i would rather get a HU if i can afford it and it is more efficient..
lilschtive on 08/7/2006 22:55:59
if you get a sub, hu and amp it will be more $, but it will be mroe sounds. But you'll get a good deal and nice sound for the money with the tube and keeping the stock HU
Ash on 08/8/2006 18:30:19
Bazooka tubes come in two different formats besides size. You can get them non-powered (requires an amp) or powered (includes a internal amp). The latter is better for adding bass to a already decent stock system. There are even some that include a extra mediocre 4 channel amp to boost output on stock or aftermarket speakers. Not a bad deal for someone wanting just a little above stock.
Non-powered usually can handle more power but can get costly when a amp, wires, and such are figured in.
You have to take all in consideration before diving into anything, as you don't want to be "stuck" with equipment that you will soon outgrow should you desire more. Figure out what "you" want then start to build a plan to reach it.
swez on 08/9/2006 11:45:38
The Bazooka Powered Bass Tube is actually a good product and east to install. Check e-bay for auctions for lower prices or "BUY NOW" pricing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-06-BAZOOKA-BTA10200-10-BASS-TUBE-200W_W0QQitemZ220015278550QQihZ012QQcategoryZ39770QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This guy has a pretty good track record, is a Power Seller too and if he has an auction bid on this item, a good place to shop. However, note the shipping costs are a bit high ($42.00) as the seller also has to pay fees for shipping, e-bay and Pay Pal transaction fees. These fees are "sometimes" negotiable too. Just ask the seller if you choose this option.
In the meantime, save your pennies and consider this as a 1st step upgrade to "better than stock" performance.
Swez
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swez on 07/28/2006 08:31:53
That HU has some nice features and a very good price is available if you care to shop around. It's a good starter kit and can easily be juiced up with amplification. The internal amps deliver a decent 18 watts RMS per channel, (4 channels) has a good EQ system and 3 pair of RCA outputs to feed various amp configurations. For more details, have a look at this:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=300&tab=detailed_info&i=133C7303#Tab
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?i=133C7303 ($209.99 after rebate)
Less cost if you shop it here:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2005-41,GGLG:en&q=Panasonic+CQC7303U
You mentioned speakers and a sub as possible options right? OK, that requires outboard amplification, to get the most out of any sound system. Care to expand on your intentions and give some ballpark budgetary figures?
To get you into a very nice position later, consider quality speakers for the next purchase. This is the most important choice toward what results you will actually hear. Does your current vehicle have the MONSOON audio package in it now?
FYI: According to Crutchfield, this HU is not a perfect drop in fit for your dash. It may be as simple as a few slight modifications or more complex. Before you buy this HU, let one of our Pro Installers give you the low-down on installing steps needed to make this item fit in your specific vehicle. It might be the angled display on this product that is throwing a red flag for this specific car or something less difficult to work around.
If you want something that will drop right in and has plenty of nice features as well, consider the following as this one does fit:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-IPdiKKXV2K2/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?wm=fp&I=130DEHP680&g=300
Comments?
Swez
Ash on 07/30/2006 11:51:43
This auto has 4x6" in the front doors with 6x9" in the back deck, right?
If you plan on adding a amp, you might want to look into some 4x6" plates which will handle more power along with better sound. These are essentially component sets as some even have swivel and/or removable tweeters. Depending on the model chosen, a 50rms per channel amp will do fine.
As for the rear, a matching set of coaxials will do fine for simple rear fill. Amping them is not important for it will be easy for them to overpower the fronts. If ran off a amp (4 channel) keeping the rear gains down below the fronts will work fine as well.
Subs? You will have to come up with a budget along with system tastes to fill this void.
swez on 07/31/2006 01:48:05
Hummm, looks like we are talking to ourselves here Ash. Am wondering if Luke lost his way back to CK or just reading the mail and chewing on it a while???
Swez
Ash on 07/31/2006 06:50:34
Well heck, I do that all the time! It keeps the boss off my back! GRIN
swez on 07/31/2006 10:30:53
Might as well talk to ourselves, especially if one happens to be the sharpest tool in the box available.
In my case, that ain't saying too much. Ain't no sharp tools to be found in or outside of the box of late. In fact, I cannot seem to even find the tool box I need at the moment. Now ain't that a sticky whicket? GRIN
Swez
PS Ever feel like you're in one of those bad movies where the guy is up "Poop's Creek", (in a canoe) with no paddles, no ores and not even a spoon? (Indiana Jones theme music blaring in from your cell phone) Only one thing to do... just go with the flow until one finds a overhanging tree and climbs out from this mess.
swez on 08/6/2006 11:34:21
Lukeduke post transfer from 8/6/06:
Year Make Model: 2001 chevy cavalier
hey, sorry about not answerin your replies.. i forgot i posted that until a little while ago.. anyways
to answer some questions.. my sub budget is about 60-100, i dont think my car has a monsoon sound system, and it would be Extremely helpful if i could find out how easy it would be to fit that HU in my car..
well im not sure when ill check this, but any help at all will be helpful..thanks
swez on 08/6/2006 12:00:13
Luke,
OK, we need to make a plan of attack for your install. You had mentioned getting an Aftermarket HU, earlier in this post.
If you just want to add a sub and amplifier, you can still use the factory HU for now. (If it has adequate features and power, that is) However, if the budget only allows $100.00 for a sub, amp and wiring hardware, you'll not get much for that amount of "investment".
OK, we've got a general plan for you... " You are a learning newbie". No problem with that. CK is a newbie friendly site, PG rated and welcome to our little space on the Web.
Would like you to think long term and "Big Picture" about your audio goals for the moment. That is, "When I finished my entire project here, what will be in the plan?" This help you map out your ultimate goals early in the game and then take "guided steps" as needed, to accomplish the long term goal, one step at a time. This has a fancy name... "Strategic Planning".
We (Golds especially), preach a very systematic form of doctrine here. It's very simple and we break each project into small, bite sized chucks. It's easier to understand for the beginner and less overwhelming too.
Things to consider: (Strategic Plan Overview)
1. What are my "Ultimate Plans" for this project?
2. What devices and componets should I buy?
3. What sequence of install steps should be used as we go along the path?
4. What gear & hardware will give the best bang for my $$?
5. How do I install each item? (Integrating the small steps)
6. When all is installed, how to dial everything in for best possible reults?
See the concept here? CK has a lot of great talent available to guide you through each step and phases. We can show you great deals on quality gear and walk you through the install process as well. It is very important to do YOUR homework up front, BEFORE BUYING ANYTHING !!! That way, you'll get the best possible gear, great results and only buy a given item 1 time. We'll guide you through each step... but pay attention and ask ??'s if unsure.
Finally, consider this as "transferrable investment". You can install as much or as little as needed now and if you sell this car, it can all come out and be transplanted into your next ride. (In most cases) This method allows one to buy the good stuff only once, enjoy the results and change vehicles with minimal time and extra $$ being spent as we transfer.
Got all that?
Swez
PS Save all your stock stuff (Factory equipment) as you upgrade. These can be re-installed before selling the car. Yes, it's a bit of a pain to do so. But, if you added some very nice upgrade speakers, amp(s) wiring and an Aftermarket HU, (HU = Radio or player) you keep the good stuff and use it for the next install. This can save a lot of $$$ in the long run.
swez on 08/6/2006 12:15:45
OK, we have a basic outline of what can be done over time for your system. Now, you can start with a very basic sub and amp upgrade and use the exsisting speakers and Radio in your car for now.
Frankly, $100.00 is going to buy a "flea market" special at best. If you want some decent thump, a single 10-12" sub, a sealed or ported enclosure and say 300 watts (RMS) amp can be done pretty cheap. (but not that cheaply) If you can see a reasonable budget number closer to about $250.00, am sure we can come up with a few items that should do a good job now and later.
Where would you like to start first? (HU, sub/amp, speaker upgrades?)
Swez
lukeduke28 on 08/6/2006 16:15:17
well.. im not really sure, i want a HU because it looks better than the one in there now. but you said that i could still use the factory HU so im not sure. not to mention it doesnt fit..
i want a sub/amp so it will bump, but that is soundin expensive..
and speakers will make it sound better but i have no clue how to wire them in and stuff..
swez on 08/6/2006 17:03:16
OK, seems like a little "cognitive reasoning" is in order here. (Thinking it all through)
Pick the statements that best fits your budget: (Budget is: $$'s???)
1. I want a "good HU" (under $200.00)
2. I want a decent sub system (approx $200.00)
3. I can do w/o a new HU for now, but want a sub system
4. I can do w/o a sub system now, but want a good HU
This will establish a "priority list" of things to buy, both now and later.
Once we have this issue sorted out, then we can look at speakers for your car too.
Expensive? Yes, life and owning a car are expensive. The best way to manage life and all that will come at us later, is to have a game plan, priorities and a few good coaches to help us along the path. We can help you with the sorting out process and all you have to focus on is getting a steady flow of cash and finding good deals.
Comments?
Swez
PS QUOTE: " but you said that i could still use the factory HU so im not sure. not to mention it doesnt fit.."
What does not fit? Your factory HU or a different model that you have now? (Please explain)
lukeduke28 on 08/6/2006 19:30:05
the panasonic one i talked about earlier...
i have a question, if i get a sub system would it run and sound good w/o a HU?
Ash on 08/6/2006 19:53:50
Upgrades are never really simple as your' never really through. The best way to do it is to simply add what your missing.
For instance, your stock system is loud enough with low distortion at a decent volume. Midbass is okay but overall the system lacks low end. Answer: add a low to medium power sub and amp.
Instance 2: You have a premium stock speakers with decent overall sound. When you crank it though, your running out of power early. Solution: change to a higher power HU and possibly some capacitors to improve driver output, or an use a outboard amp with high level inputs and crossovers to minimize driver distortion & burnout.
3: Your stock speakers sound good and get loud, but there is no high end clarity/sizzle. Add a set of add on tweets to bring up the highs and clear things up.
4. Your stock speakers just sounds nasty. Change to some efficient aftermarket speakers to clean things up (drivers are the most important upgrade as they are the signal converters).
Just some examples of simple, cost effective things you can do if you can't wait until the whole shabang. You just have to figure out what is missing from how you want it to sound. Also, be smart with the upgrades. Make sure that other components can be easily be integrated when needed.
swez on 08/7/2006 08:22:11
Looked up that Panasonic HU (Radio/CD player) and according to Cruchfield, it does not fit your vehicle. With some modifications to the dash pocket, you might be able to improve the looks of the install and make it fit better. But it may take skills and tools of a Pro installer to do this well.
Can you return it to K-Mart and get your money back? (K-Mart has always had a very generous return policy) That would make sense for the moment, if you kept the Factory radio and can reinstall it for now. With the money you get back from the return, you can either buy a sub and amp kit now, or look for a HU that does fit and has the features needed, so you can add additional items later.
Swez
PS Noted you are very young and this is a learning experience we all have to go through. But one thing you can do as you learn, is to get good information from knowledgable people here at CK. We can help you avoid common mistakes and get great results the first time out.
In short, ask for guidance "BEFORE" making a purchase. This will make life a lot easier, when we ask skilled and experienced people how to do the job well. Notice how 2 good guys are trying to help you now? There's a few more people here (at CK) that can lead you along if you need them.
lukeduke28 on 08/7/2006 13:29:47
well, i havent purchased it yet.. thats alot of money for me and i wasnt gonna buy it until i knew that is was what i want and that it is a good start
if i do buy anything im probably goin to have someone that knows what theyre doin put it in.. simply because i dont know what im doin and i want it to be done right. and i dont trust myself to do it well..
would a sub/amp sound good runnin on the factory radio?
Ash on 08/7/2006 18:27:02
It can sound decent enough, it just depends on what combo you use. Amplified Bazooka tubes and bass engines alike are most often used to add bass to a factory setup. It is not a bad route "if the stock setup sounds good enough already".
Like Swez says, "think this through". Ask yourself: What am I trying to accomplish and what am I missing from that now?
Set a target, then strive to meet that goal. Even if it's "baby" steps. I don't know of that many people that have done it all at once and usually they are the smarter ones. Having patience means that you have time to examine progress you have made and smartfully knowing what next step to take.
swez on 08/7/2006 19:18:19
Amen Brother Ash!!! Well said and I agree.
Yes, that Panasonic HU is not a best fit match to your vehicle. If you have not bought it yet... cool. We can help you find one that will fit when your budget permits.
As Ash said, Bazooka Powered Bass tubes actually do a pretty good job adding some bass to a stock system. A single 10" sub, ported tube and 100-200 watts is not a bad start.
Let's see what's on the Web that meets your budget:
http://www.techronics.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=2680&aff=45847
($198.35 + S/H)
This system only needs a power line, ground wire, speaker level inputs off the rear deck speakers and a remote amp turn on signal wire. Pretty basic and we can walk you through the install from A-Z.
If you want to read and learn more about how to install and use this product, read the manual over a few times until you feel confident that you can do it.
http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/204/204BTA1010.PDF
FYI: We are big on Do It Yourself at CK. It helps folks in many ways:
1. Cuts over all cost of the project (25-50% savings)
2. Learn how things work (Very good skills to have)
3. Learn by doing the job with guided assistance (Not on your own here)
4. A valuable sense of accomplishment (Hey, I did this myself !!!)
5. Builds self-confidence and learn to tackle new things we once thought were well beyond our skills (Very good for the self-esteem)
6. Once you get a few projects done well, you have a bunch of buddies you can now help and make money to fund your own projects
(A very good way to make a few extra $$'s as we learn)
This sub/amp combo is a very good price and if you are comfortable with e-bay, should be able to beat that price too.
What say you Luke?
Swez
PS Don't be shy... You're among friends. We want to help you succeed!!! SMILE If you don't mind a little crawling around in this car and want to learn how to do things yourself, we can help.
lilschtive on 08/7/2006 20:03:02
Hey there. I would reccomend this subwoofer, as its a ported 10 in a single box, and not a bad price!
http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-TS-WX101-10-SUBWOOFER-CAR-SUB-IN-ENCLOSURE-BOX_W0QQitemZ300014649879QQihZ020QQcategoryZ50571QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
If i did my research right, this amp would be sufficient: http://cgi.ebay.com/PIONEER-GM-3200T-300W-2-Channel-Car-Amplifier-Amp-NEW_W0QQitemZ300014029139QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39736QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Those are my 2 bits. Hopefully that throws some ideas out there. good luck.
lukeduke28 on 08/7/2006 21:33:35
does the bazooka tube need an amp? cuz it is still a little bit too much and with an amp would be way too much..
i guess i could try to do it myself...but i seriously have NO clue what im doin.. but hey, i like a good challenge. and i would like to get to know this stuff, it would be cool to talk to people about it and know what im talkin about
would i get a better sound if i saved up to get a HU, sub and amp instead of keepin the factory radio and gettin a bazooka tube? because i would rather get a HU if i can afford it and it is more efficient..
lilschtive on 08/7/2006 22:55:59
if you get a sub, hu and amp it will be more $, but it will be mroe sounds. But you'll get a good deal and nice sound for the money with the tube and keeping the stock HU
Ash on 08/8/2006 18:30:19
Bazooka tubes come in two different formats besides size. You can get them non-powered (requires an amp) or powered (includes a internal amp). The latter is better for adding bass to a already decent stock system. There are even some that include a extra mediocre 4 channel amp to boost output on stock or aftermarket speakers. Not a bad deal for someone wanting just a little above stock.
Non-powered usually can handle more power but can get costly when a amp, wires, and such are figured in.
You have to take all in consideration before diving into anything, as you don't want to be "stuck" with equipment that you will soon outgrow should you desire more. Figure out what "you" want then start to build a plan to reach it.
swez on 08/9/2006 11:45:38
The Bazooka Powered Bass Tube is actually a good product and east to install. Check e-bay for auctions for lower prices or "BUY NOW" pricing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-06-BAZOOKA-BTA10200-10-BASS-TUBE-200W_W0QQitemZ220015278550QQihZ012QQcategoryZ39770QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
This guy has a pretty good track record, is a Power Seller too and if he has an auction bid on this item, a good place to shop. However, note the shipping costs are a bit high ($42.00) as the seller also has to pay fees for shipping, e-bay and Pay Pal transaction fees. These fees are "sometimes" negotiable too. Just ask the seller if you choose this option.
In the meantime, save your pennies and consider this as a 1st step upgrade to "better than stock" performance.
Swez
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