THINK putting a new stereo in 66 implalla THINK
Ok guys i got a doozy here. I'm trying to put a new stereo (deck, 2 amps, sub, 4 speaks, and sat ilite radio) into a 1966 impalla HAPPY. I know i amd going to have to run tons of wireing and custom mount the deck but and having some problems find answers to questions.
1. (the car is in the shop so i cant see this first hand) where should I draw power for the deck from? The owner wants to leave the original deck in for "looks" but, should I just tap into its power line turn on and ground or find new sources, if so where? (speakers have their own amp)
2. Second he would like not to mount the antenna reciever for the satilite radio on the outside of car (trunk...its a converable). Will the dash be a suitable location for this?
3. The unit he purchased was a JVC "plug and play" and this car doesn't have a cig lighter. I was going to "hard-wire" it into the system but once again have the power sorce question.
Well, I think thats enough for one post... Thanx for any and all help CLAP
Replies (5)
trunkisloud on 10/24/2005 17:06:16
dude...i did this in a 64...well, installed a deck,amp and speakers anyway...one thing about those factory radios is that the balance knob has wires attatched to it and is a pain in the but to get out of the dash..at least the 64 was.i just ran the accessory wire to the origional radio fuse on the panel and the hot i ran strait to the battery....slapped an in-line fuse in that right at the battery...not sure how he wants to mount the deck but i just screwed the deck sleeve to the bottom of the dash and slid the deck in....wasnt the prettiest but it was effective...the wires tucked nicely under the dash.....another thing about the 64 is that they only had one speaker opening in the dash and one in the rear panel...not sure again how the 66 is...but the amps and sub should be cake...i have no experience with xm so i cant input on that...but you should be able to do the same if the xm has a remote wire to come from the deck....again i dont know about xm radio...if so just run the power to the battery also......i know that if im wrong someone will correct me on this..so just wait a bit and see what anyone else has to say before tearin into it
swez on 10/24/2005 18:00:38
You are right... this will be a challenge. The main question is where to mount the JVC HU. Those older cars had pretty large glove boxes. If the HU has a remote control, consider mounting it there.
Most newer HU's have 2 required power lines + ground and speaker wires. The Red wire can be hard wired to IGN/ACC circuit in fuse panel. The Yellow wire needs constant 12 volts to maintain memory functions. This is usually tapped of the BAT + terminal or BAT lug in fuse box.
This car originally had a single speaker either in the dash or rear deck. Has it been modified with aftermarket speakers? (I hope so) The original speakers only had 1 wire going to them. (a speaker hot lead) The ground was off the body of the car. Newer HU's cannot use that system. You need 2 wires to each speaker. (Pos & Neg)
You mentioned this car has amped speakers? Say more please. The more detail you have, the better we can assist you here.
Antenna for XM or Sirius radio, may have to experiment with placement here. Getting a good ground plane is key to getting a good signal. See this: (it should help on antenna options.
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-rtf4K0q9jla/learningcenter/car/satellite_video.html?format=mov
Plug and play means: "Easy to set up and add other devices" hehe
Swez
cplkittle on 10/24/2005 20:21:32
There are several companies that make OEM look alike radios, I have used two different companies and had no luck with either. One company was custom auto sound.. They look good, but that is about all.
Like Swez mentioned that car has a common ground speaker system. newer systems use floating grounds (pos and neg to each speaker. Peripherial has a piece that can convert floating ground to common ground systems if you want to avoid running new wires.(http://peripheralelectronics.com/web/loc.asp#floating ). Any car audio store that orders through AAmp of America (Stinger products) should have this piece or can order it for you.
There is also an underdash mounting kit also available from Aamp. Most people prefer the glovebox installation though.
If you are running wires for an amplifier you can use the constant for the radio, there should also be a pretty fat switched wire in the ignition switch wiring harness as they did not use relays back then, so the wire actually had to carry enough current to power all of the accessories.
The satellite radio antenna works best on a metal surface in the open. I have seen them as well as GPS antennas mounted on the dash, but this only works in vehicles with a steep slope to the winshield. I would recommend experimentation with antenna reception before mounting it on the dash.
Be sure to run the power wire on the other side of the car than the RCA cables otherwise you will almost always get that darned alternator whine.
effenstereo on 10/25/2005 02:41:12
OK, let me start with WOW! I am not only impressed by the quickness of responce by those who have but expecially the willingness to help. THANK YOU. I will was expecting far less and am throughly thankfull... I will post a new thred shortly with all details of this install because it has yet to be started and if possable pics of the process and results. Thanx again
-Effen
ttocs on 10/25/2005 17:54:45
There is alot of good people here with good advise..
Ok guys i got a doozy here. I'm trying to put a new stereo (deck, 2 amps, sub, 4 speaks, and sat ilite radio) into a 1966 impalla HAPPY. I know i amd going to have to run tons of wireing and custom mount the deck but and having some problems find answers to questions.
1. (the car is in the shop so i cant see this first hand) where should I draw power for the deck from? The owner wants to leave the original deck in for "looks" but, should I just tap into its power line turn on and ground or find new sources, if so where? (speakers have their own amp)
2. Second he would like not to mount the antenna reciever for the satilite radio on the outside of car (trunk...its a converable). Will the dash be a suitable location for this?
3. The unit he purchased was a JVC "plug and play" and this car doesn't have a cig lighter. I was going to "hard-wire" it into the system but once again have the power sorce question.
Well, I think thats enough for one post... Thanx for any and all help CLAP
Replies (5)
trunkisloud on 10/24/2005 17:06:16
dude...i did this in a 64...well, installed a deck,amp and speakers anyway...one thing about those factory radios is that the balance knob has wires attatched to it and is a pain in the but to get out of the dash..at least the 64 was.i just ran the accessory wire to the origional radio fuse on the panel and the hot i ran strait to the battery....slapped an in-line fuse in that right at the battery...not sure how he wants to mount the deck but i just screwed the deck sleeve to the bottom of the dash and slid the deck in....wasnt the prettiest but it was effective...the wires tucked nicely under the dash.....another thing about the 64 is that they only had one speaker opening in the dash and one in the rear panel...not sure again how the 66 is...but the amps and sub should be cake...i have no experience with xm so i cant input on that...but you should be able to do the same if the xm has a remote wire to come from the deck....again i dont know about xm radio...if so just run the power to the battery also......i know that if im wrong someone will correct me on this..so just wait a bit and see what anyone else has to say before tearin into it
swez on 10/24/2005 18:00:38
You are right... this will be a challenge. The main question is where to mount the JVC HU. Those older cars had pretty large glove boxes. If the HU has a remote control, consider mounting it there.
Most newer HU's have 2 required power lines + ground and speaker wires. The Red wire can be hard wired to IGN/ACC circuit in fuse panel. The Yellow wire needs constant 12 volts to maintain memory functions. This is usually tapped of the BAT + terminal or BAT lug in fuse box.
This car originally had a single speaker either in the dash or rear deck. Has it been modified with aftermarket speakers? (I hope so) The original speakers only had 1 wire going to them. (a speaker hot lead) The ground was off the body of the car. Newer HU's cannot use that system. You need 2 wires to each speaker. (Pos & Neg)
You mentioned this car has amped speakers? Say more please. The more detail you have, the better we can assist you here.
Antenna for XM or Sirius radio, may have to experiment with placement here. Getting a good ground plane is key to getting a good signal. See this: (it should help on antenna options.
http://www.crutchfieldadvisor.com/S-rtf4K0q9jla/learningcenter/car/satellite_video.html?format=mov
Plug and play means: "Easy to set up and add other devices" hehe
Swez
cplkittle on 10/24/2005 20:21:32
There are several companies that make OEM look alike radios, I have used two different companies and had no luck with either. One company was custom auto sound.. They look good, but that is about all.
Like Swez mentioned that car has a common ground speaker system. newer systems use floating grounds (pos and neg to each speaker. Peripherial has a piece that can convert floating ground to common ground systems if you want to avoid running new wires.(http://peripheralelectronics.com/web/loc.asp#floating ). Any car audio store that orders through AAmp of America (Stinger products) should have this piece or can order it for you.
There is also an underdash mounting kit also available from Aamp. Most people prefer the glovebox installation though.
If you are running wires for an amplifier you can use the constant for the radio, there should also be a pretty fat switched wire in the ignition switch wiring harness as they did not use relays back then, so the wire actually had to carry enough current to power all of the accessories.
The satellite radio antenna works best on a metal surface in the open. I have seen them as well as GPS antennas mounted on the dash, but this only works in vehicles with a steep slope to the winshield. I would recommend experimentation with antenna reception before mounting it on the dash.
Be sure to run the power wire on the other side of the car than the RCA cables otherwise you will almost always get that darned alternator whine.
effenstereo on 10/25/2005 02:41:12
OK, let me start with WOW! I am not only impressed by the quickness of responce by those who have but expecially the willingness to help. THANK YOU. I will was expecting far less and am throughly thankfull... I will post a new thred shortly with all details of this install because it has yet to be started and if possable pics of the process and results. Thanx again
-Effen
ttocs on 10/25/2005 17:54:45
There is alot of good people here with good advise..
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