I'm looking for an easy upgrade for my system. I want to get a enclosed sub package for my car. I have a 700w four channel amp, 4 x 60 watts rms and and 180 watts x 2 bridged at 4 ohms. What I'd like to do is power the two rear speakers, and a sub with the amp. What sub would give me the best sound in this situation? I'm looking to spend $100 to $150 for the sub, and I have everything else needed for installation.
I know I'm limited in the amount of bass I can get with what I have, but I'd like to make the most of it. GRIN
Replies (11)
swez on 09/27/2005 11:41:53
In most cases, the 4 channel amp will power the front & rear full range speakers you have. Another option can be to use the front channels for front speakers and bridge the rear channels for a sub. The rear speakers will be powered by the amps in the radio. (HU)
With a modest system like this amp, no need for an expensive sub here. With the amount in your budget and some hard shopping, you might find a powered sub and have more flexibility in the system, at your disposal.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/27/2005 23:19:06
Thanks. That was something else I was thinking about, but wasn't sure if the 8 gauge power cable I have is enough for both my current amp and a powered sub. What brands should I look into for powered subs?
swez on 09/28/2005 09:27:06
The #8 wire is fine for your 4 channel alone. However, if you add a powered sub, better to use a #4 gage wiring kit here.
Powered sub systems can do a nice job adding "modest bump" to your ride, w/o overtaxing your electricals too much. Bazooka, Kenwood, JBL and Infinty Bass Link are all possible powered sub options. They are compact, portable and range in power from 100-250 watts RMS. Here, the use of an efficient ported enclosure design will help get more bang for your buck. However, don't expect to boom all the way down the block either.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/28/2005 11:36:38
I'm not looking for too much boom, just enough to feel like when it kicks in. I kinda regret deciding on not using a 6 or 4 gauge wire when I installed it, but it'll be good do brush up on my installation skills and fairly easy as all I have to do is follow the current wire. Thanks for your help and I'll keep you updated on my progress. First I need to save up.
swez on 09/28/2005 19:56:06
If you have already installed #8 wiring, hang on to it as you can use it to split up the #4 from a Disty Block to each amplifier used.
Tip: If you loosen up the locations that hide the #8 wire now, can use the #8 wire as a "traveler" to draw your new #4 through the engine compartment, through cabin to the trunk.
We use this "traveler line" (1-3 feet long, nylon cord works great) at run long cables for audio speaker feeds in ceilings, through conduit and in/out of walled areas. A real time saver. Electricians fish tapes are good too, but most folks don't have one of these handy. Same idea though. The trick is getting a good grip between traveler line and both existing cables. Electrical or duct tape usually works in all but the tightest pulls.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/28/2005 23:25:48
Not a bad idea at all. I'll definetly have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip.
ttocs on 09/29/2005 02:29:54
you can always try and find a bass link er something, and then use the 4 channel for you mids and highs..........
Intrigue on 09/29/2005 11:13:18
That's pretty much the plan. I'll have more control with a basslink, and more power to boot. : )
I was looking into this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pffQJW6xlDH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=51000&id=essential_info&i=108BASSLIN#Tab
I can probably find it cheaper somewhere else, but there's a good overview. Any thoughts?
compvr15s on 09/29/2005 15:55:43
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-INFINITY-BASSLINK-T-10-250W-POWERED-SUBWOOFER-SUB_W0QQitemZ5807021934QQcategoryZ32822QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
have you heard of the basslink t. same thing but lil more bass. have not heard the basslink original but have heard the T series... was not a bad allaround bass generator.... i know jbl also makes a powered sub, cant think of the name of it, heard it does ok for its size too. good luck
Intrigue on 09/29/2005 17:29:52
Neat, that sub is a lot cheaper on ebay than it is elsewhere. The JBL's are a good price but compared to the others I've been checking out, it has a bit less power... well, a lot less power compared to the infinitys.
Although in all actuality, I should be considering the price more since I planned on a budget of 100 - 150 and now I'm considering 200+.
swez on 10/1/2005 06:18:20
The single 10" Bass Link is fine and can be had for under $200.00, if you shop it hard. The newer dual passive radiator system is larger, looks more impressive, but I doubt it will sound too much better than the single passive kit. The dual passive may go a bit lower and a tad louder, but the price difference is probably not a good trade off.
Swez
I know I'm limited in the amount of bass I can get with what I have, but I'd like to make the most of it. GRIN
Replies (11)
swez on 09/27/2005 11:41:53
In most cases, the 4 channel amp will power the front & rear full range speakers you have. Another option can be to use the front channels for front speakers and bridge the rear channels for a sub. The rear speakers will be powered by the amps in the radio. (HU)
With a modest system like this amp, no need for an expensive sub here. With the amount in your budget and some hard shopping, you might find a powered sub and have more flexibility in the system, at your disposal.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/27/2005 23:19:06
Thanks. That was something else I was thinking about, but wasn't sure if the 8 gauge power cable I have is enough for both my current amp and a powered sub. What brands should I look into for powered subs?
swez on 09/28/2005 09:27:06
The #8 wire is fine for your 4 channel alone. However, if you add a powered sub, better to use a #4 gage wiring kit here.
Powered sub systems can do a nice job adding "modest bump" to your ride, w/o overtaxing your electricals too much. Bazooka, Kenwood, JBL and Infinty Bass Link are all possible powered sub options. They are compact, portable and range in power from 100-250 watts RMS. Here, the use of an efficient ported enclosure design will help get more bang for your buck. However, don't expect to boom all the way down the block either.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/28/2005 11:36:38
I'm not looking for too much boom, just enough to feel like when it kicks in. I kinda regret deciding on not using a 6 or 4 gauge wire when I installed it, but it'll be good do brush up on my installation skills and fairly easy as all I have to do is follow the current wire. Thanks for your help and I'll keep you updated on my progress. First I need to save up.
swez on 09/28/2005 19:56:06
If you have already installed #8 wiring, hang on to it as you can use it to split up the #4 from a Disty Block to each amplifier used.
Tip: If you loosen up the locations that hide the #8 wire now, can use the #8 wire as a "traveler" to draw your new #4 through the engine compartment, through cabin to the trunk.
We use this "traveler line" (1-3 feet long, nylon cord works great) at run long cables for audio speaker feeds in ceilings, through conduit and in/out of walled areas. A real time saver. Electricians fish tapes are good too, but most folks don't have one of these handy. Same idea though. The trick is getting a good grip between traveler line and both existing cables. Electrical or duct tape usually works in all but the tightest pulls.
Swez
Intrigue on 09/28/2005 23:25:48
Not a bad idea at all. I'll definetly have to give that a try. Thanks for the tip.
ttocs on 09/29/2005 02:29:54
you can always try and find a bass link er something, and then use the 4 channel for you mids and highs..........
Intrigue on 09/29/2005 11:13:18
That's pretty much the plan. I'll have more control with a basslink, and more power to boot. : )
I was looking into this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-pffQJW6xlDH/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=51000&id=essential_info&i=108BASSLIN#Tab
I can probably find it cheaper somewhere else, but there's a good overview. Any thoughts?
compvr15s on 09/29/2005 15:55:43
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-INFINITY-BASSLINK-T-10-250W-POWERED-SUBWOOFER-SUB_W0QQitemZ5807021934QQcategoryZ32822QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
have you heard of the basslink t. same thing but lil more bass. have not heard the basslink original but have heard the T series... was not a bad allaround bass generator.... i know jbl also makes a powered sub, cant think of the name of it, heard it does ok for its size too. good luck
Intrigue on 09/29/2005 17:29:52
Neat, that sub is a lot cheaper on ebay than it is elsewhere. The JBL's are a good price but compared to the others I've been checking out, it has a bit less power... well, a lot less power compared to the infinitys.
Although in all actuality, I should be considering the price more since I planned on a budget of 100 - 150 and now I'm considering 200+.
swez on 10/1/2005 06:18:20
The single 10" Bass Link is fine and can be had for under $200.00, if you shop it hard. The newer dual passive radiator system is larger, looks more impressive, but I doubt it will sound too much better than the single passive kit. The dual passive may go a bit lower and a tad louder, but the price difference is probably not a good trade off.
Swez
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