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ttocs on 06/10/2005 13:39:19
yea ya wish.. Cute how they dressed alike.....
MrBrownstone on 06/10/2005 14:13:43
Hey man
My woman are always instructed to look like they are right out of a Marshall Field's catalogue.
I gots classy women in my stable. Just wish some of them wouldn't kick me in the jimmie when I try to mount them :-)
I'll never change.......
swez on 06/10/2005 21:35:08
Nope... sure won't change... even when ya move to Cali. But the babes all have blond hair, big boob jobs (is that OK to say here?) and like to spend all your money too.
Find a sweet Southern Belle that came up simple and poor. She won't demand much and just make you the best southern fried dinners on the planet.
Or, try "Rent a Witch" ! It's a franchised spinoff of the Ditch Witch Corporation. They don't advertise much, but from what I can tell, they rent millions of units a year. (and I don't mean ditch diggers either)
Swez
ttocs on 06/11/2005 02:23:00
I dunno about these western chicks.... I have dated a few and not really been too interested. I have been enjoyin the single life and bouncing around for a while, but things may be changing.. Back home there was a girl that I new for a few years, and was there at an important time of need for her. now that I think about it I was there when her daughter was born, her father was not even there. We dated for a brief time and funny enough she was annoyed at how nice I was to her, I was too nice!! She has always had horrable taste in men to be honest, they always crap all over her and she tries to make it work. She broke up with her most recent guy over a year ago. On one trip of mine home we were talking a little deeply and she admitted that she wished she could date me again, she was tired of the loosers she said. I could not imagine living back in the midwest, and she cannot leave her family. I told her that if she ever needed a change she had an open invite to crash at my house for how ever long she needed. All my close friends have this offer, one other has taken me up on it. She told me that she has been thinking about a change and actually considering it, I was shocked. I gave her more to chew on when I asked her what was the worst that could happen? If she didn't like it she could move back? We have talked twice this week and each time was about the same subj.
So, like I said I have been enjoying the single life now and really being selfish as what the heck I can be? Not sure how I feel about serious relationships, and i am perty sure she is not moving her to lower her cost of living. But, if there was one girl that would make me change my mind she is the one..... She is the only girl with a child that I would consider dating, her 6yr old is great. We have always been closer then friends but not dating(most nights). She was always the girl that got under my other girl friends skins, although I still have never cheated on a g-friend. Scared of commitment and yet scared to loose her, again...
swez on 06/11/2005 21:53:28
Walking a thin line there mang... marriage on one side, losing a best friend on the other... but if both toe the line, could be just what all of you need... a secure relationship.
This woman needs a patient and even tempered man. If she has picked losers a lot and tried to save them, she will likely try too hard to "make things work" with you as well. That may drive some men crazy as a woman like that, tends to hover, smother or control others. Look for any of those patterns and be willing to work them through in many years.
Also, realize she and her baby need a commitment. At 6 years old, kids are pretty alert to what's going on around them. They cannot verbalize it, but they need security and unconditional caring. Not a one foot in, one foot out kind of Daddy.
Ever heard of Dr. Laura SCHLESSINGER? She has a daily radio spot on Talk radio. Gives lots of great advise, never beats around the bush and shoots straight with her callers and e-mail.
http://www.drlaura.com/main
I listen to her almost every evening now, 11:00 PM - 1:00 AM. (M-F) She is very direct, to the point and does not pull her punches. She is about 60 now, (still a hottie too) and has written many books on relationships, raising kids and how we can avoid making big blunders in them.
No, I don't agree with every jot & tiddle she says... but for the most part, this woman has a message well worth listening to. She does not condone "Shack up jobs", lazy parenting, stupid behaviors and people who are always driven by emotions, rather than using their brains to reasoning things out. Give her 2 weeks of your time and see if what she espouses does indeed make sense.
She is a strong advocate for children and when most Mom's call about wanting to shack up or get married before the child is of age, she comes down pretty strong on what the child needs VS what the mother would like. Her point is that a child needs a committed relationship and someone to call Daddy for a long time to come. That makes all the sense in the world to me as well.
In short, we have enough screwed up kids in the world today, because there is no stability from a male figure and/or "Mom" is not mature enough to make smart choices about relationships. Being lonely or picking a new jerk to help raise her kiddlet(s) is not a favorable option for most call in players.
Check it out with eyes wide open,
Swez
ttocs on 06/12/2005 03:30:52
Her and I have always had a special relationship, and I have known her for 10 yrs now. We dated for a short time with the agreement that we would still be friends if it didn't work out as the friendship meant too much to us to loose. yes there was a strange period afterwards but it was not long before we were back to were we used to be. It wasn't till after I moved out of town and she started dating another looser before she missed what she had, I think. I agree with you about the daughter and not wanting to screw her up. Like I said I was there the day she was born and she has also been special to me, and me to her. Missy puts me on a bit of a pedistal as I was the only person she had to call when she needed to move out of the abusive fathers apartment, and had no where to go. I think her daughter has picked up on this and acts accordingly as well, never had any trouble from her...
Oh, and we used to stay up and talk while listening to dr laura, funny enough.
swez on 06/12/2005 10:57:55
The fact you two have a long standing friendship and can pick things up at will, is a definite plus. That is a great ice breaker out of the box.
However, casual dating, serious dating, courtship and marriage are very different phases.
Dating is a blast, but hard on the wallet for most guys. If we are lucky enough to find a finaciall secure partner, then sharing dating expenses can be a real plus too.
Serious dating is a real rush on many fronts. A pattern has developed and some of the masks start to come off. We see the real deal about each other. Some we will enjoy, others will be hard to adjust to and some habits may be almost intolerable. This is the "make it or break it" stage for most couples. Unfortunately, if partners at this stage have been sharing bodily fluids by now, hard to give that perk up. This stage makes both partners literally bonded to each other. Even if more things are wrong with the relationship then good, many will remain in this arrangement to their own detriment. (BTDT, more than once)
Courtship is where the rubber starts to meet the pavement. We are hopefully in sync with each others needs and know the "baggage" that comes with the package. We meet each others families, see the backgrounds in each package and now, it's time to take a long, hard look at future plans... yep, engagement and eventually marriage.
This may seem like the beginning of the end to some diehard bachelors. Are we ready to settle down, become providers and protectors of the fair maden? Can she deal with our idiot behaviors? Can we deal with her erratic moods? (PMS, I feel fat, ugly, bad hair days... whatever) If she ever says something like... "Honey, do I look fat in this outfit?" Know you are about to make a very tough call.
1. Well dear, you are fat and that outfit just proves the obvious. (Big mistake, this night out will be a disaster and you may be in the doghouse for a long while) Brutal honesty has a big pricetag.
2. Or, You look fine sweetie. Let's go out and have some fun. (Not a bad answer. Good middle of the road response too.
3. Baby, you always look great to me. I am always happy to show you off to my friends and such. (You hit the jackpot dude!) This is going to be a very nice evening out and better when we get back home.
Marriage is hopefully the beginning of a long journey as a bonded pair. We often learn a lot about ourselves and each other in the day to day things. How do we work out differences, styles of arguing, learning how to speak a language that suits each partners' needs or preferences and hopefully by now have figured out that LOVE is not an emotion. It is a mindset of doing what's right, even when it's hard. LOVE is an action we choose daily.
These are just my observations and ramblings. Have studied the dynamics of relationships and see some definite patterns on how people make or ruin a relationship. Probably the biggest "deal breaker" boils down to selfishness, immaturity or self-centerness.
The Oak tree is strong and stout. However, it can fracture in the strong winds of life that often help to make it strong. The Willow tree is flexible and able to bend with wind and storms. It's a messy tree that loves watering. The more water it gets, the faster it will grow. Funny thing though, men have to be a hybrid of both. Able to withstand the storms of life and still remain strong and flexible. Men can be magestic Redwoods, the towering Ponderosa Pine and sadly, the friendly Birch tree that cannot stand up to much ruckus before it caves in and falls apart.
As for women, not sure what kind of tree they are, to be honest. Maybe a fruit/nut bearing tree of some sort. Some are like fine apples or orange trees. They produce wonderful fruit in due seasons. Others are a bit thorney and produce bad apples too. (Crab apples) Still others are just plain old nut trees. If you like pecans, walnuts or similar, look for one of those. Life is rarely dull with a nut tree in the yard.
I should write a book someday. It may not sell well, but experiences are worth capturing on paper. If all else fails, can be used for fire starting or toilet paper huh?
Swez
MrBrownstone on 06/13/2005 15:43:10
I feel that not enough attention has been paid to my girlfriends and too much has been paid to YOUR needs.
Can't someone at least acknowledge that I picked the right 2 bad girls? :-)
That...or, "..MR B. How come you wear the same purple pantsuits to court?"
:-)
swez on 06/13/2005 23:30:53
Uhmmmm, would you bring either or both of those girls home to Mom for her review? That is the acid test for most guys. Have to pass muster with Mom or it's no deal. Afterall, who knows more about the right woman for her darling son, then dear ol' Mom. Just ask her, she raised you and knows you pretty well right?
The other comment... don't like the personal editorial or commentary? Can delete it, edit it or just leave it be. Just been musing outloud (in writing) about some observations and experiences over the past 30+ years about relationships and life in general. If any find it interesting... that's fine. If not, I'll delete them or others can choose to ignore them. Does that sound good?
Swez
MrBrownstone on 06/14/2005 13:08:22
I was just teasing Swezzy poo!!!
Take the girls home to Mom? She loves Democrats...so probably wouldn't be a problem so long as she doesn't know they are BOTH mine!!!
I was just expecting more snyde remarks, and was pointing out that it was a letdown.
Post as you like...
ttocs on 06/15/2005 10:36:10
sorry, I crashed it and scared everybody off........
swez on 06/15/2005 18:47:13
Ditto... but what the hey, boards been a bit slow of late, so why not throw in some off topic discussions to past time?
Mr. B.,
What the heck, take em both home to Mom & Dad. Sell the fact they are both liberal Dems and you cannot decide which one to pick. See what thier read is. If they like both, become a Morman.
Ya know, can always move to Salt Lake City, and do the paligamy thing. It's pretty common and expected that men have mulitiple wives there. Have no idea what it would be like to have multiple wives under one roof. Maybe a cat fight would be fun to watch? Or, set up two residences and split your time according to who's raggin that week.
Note: When women live together for a time, their bodies tend to syncronize and both cycle at the same time. Can you imagine how King David must have felt with his harem? Maybe that's why he called for Bathsheba ???
FYI: Jewish law prohibited a man from lying with or even touching a woman during her cycle. She was considered "unclean" and any male that fooled with that, also became "unclean".
Swez SMILE
MrBrownstone on 06/20/2005 14:11:50
Thanks for that lesson in biology.....I'd rather take anatomy via Braille....finding a lab partner at the sorority.
At any rate, I guess I could flip/flop between the 2.....BURRRRRN!!!
What an internship program!
2 for the price of 1
Hey, hotstuff...wanna post our bail????
Boy, I gosta take shots at myself here.
At any rate, Yes, I too have heard that if a bunch of women live together, eventually they all become lesbians.....!
swez on 06/21/2005 14:28:13
Anatomy by braille.... hummm, not a bad idea if you get to choose the lab partner too. But, if one claims to be blind and needs to learn by touch only... where would you go first to find the right lab partner???
Or should I say... what steps would be used to find suitable lab
partner(s)? Ahhhh, let's see....errr (scratch that) "feel" out the possibilities:
1. Leg man
2. Boob man
3. Tush man
4. Hair fettish
5. Foot fettish
6. Other ???
Guess one would have to rank them in order of preference huh? LOL
Where can one sign up for such classes? Am a few credits short of a "Happy Meal" for a PhD. Are there 101,200,300 and advanced courses in this field? What the hey... can't hurt to ask...
Swez
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ttocs on 06/10/2005 13:39:19
yea ya wish.. Cute how they dressed alike.....
MrBrownstone on 06/10/2005 14:13:43
Hey man
My woman are always instructed to look like they are right out of a Marshall Field's catalogue.
I gots classy women in my stable. Just wish some of them wouldn't kick me in the jimmie when I try to mount them :-)
I'll never change.......
swez on 06/10/2005 21:35:08
Nope... sure won't change... even when ya move to Cali. But the babes all have blond hair, big boob jobs (is that OK to say here?) and like to spend all your money too.
Find a sweet Southern Belle that came up simple and poor. She won't demand much and just make you the best southern fried dinners on the planet.
Or, try "Rent a Witch" ! It's a franchised spinoff of the Ditch Witch Corporation. They don't advertise much, but from what I can tell, they rent millions of units a year. (and I don't mean ditch diggers either)
Swez
ttocs on 06/11/2005 02:23:00
I dunno about these western chicks.... I have dated a few and not really been too interested. I have been enjoyin the single life and bouncing around for a while, but things may be changing.. Back home there was a girl that I new for a few years, and was there at an important time of need for her. now that I think about it I was there when her daughter was born, her father was not even there. We dated for a brief time and funny enough she was annoyed at how nice I was to her, I was too nice!! She has always had horrable taste in men to be honest, they always crap all over her and she tries to make it work. She broke up with her most recent guy over a year ago. On one trip of mine home we were talking a little deeply and she admitted that she wished she could date me again, she was tired of the loosers she said. I could not imagine living back in the midwest, and she cannot leave her family. I told her that if she ever needed a change she had an open invite to crash at my house for how ever long she needed. All my close friends have this offer, one other has taken me up on it. She told me that she has been thinking about a change and actually considering it, I was shocked. I gave her more to chew on when I asked her what was the worst that could happen? If she didn't like it she could move back? We have talked twice this week and each time was about the same subj.
So, like I said I have been enjoying the single life now and really being selfish as what the heck I can be? Not sure how I feel about serious relationships, and i am perty sure she is not moving her to lower her cost of living. But, if there was one girl that would make me change my mind she is the one..... She is the only girl with a child that I would consider dating, her 6yr old is great. We have always been closer then friends but not dating(most nights). She was always the girl that got under my other girl friends skins, although I still have never cheated on a g-friend. Scared of commitment and yet scared to loose her, again...
swez on 06/11/2005 21:53:28
Walking a thin line there mang... marriage on one side, losing a best friend on the other... but if both toe the line, could be just what all of you need... a secure relationship.
This woman needs a patient and even tempered man. If she has picked losers a lot and tried to save them, she will likely try too hard to "make things work" with you as well. That may drive some men crazy as a woman like that, tends to hover, smother or control others. Look for any of those patterns and be willing to work them through in many years.
Also, realize she and her baby need a commitment. At 6 years old, kids are pretty alert to what's going on around them. They cannot verbalize it, but they need security and unconditional caring. Not a one foot in, one foot out kind of Daddy.
Ever heard of Dr. Laura SCHLESSINGER? She has a daily radio spot on Talk radio. Gives lots of great advise, never beats around the bush and shoots straight with her callers and e-mail.
http://www.drlaura.com/main
I listen to her almost every evening now, 11:00 PM - 1:00 AM. (M-F) She is very direct, to the point and does not pull her punches. She is about 60 now, (still a hottie too) and has written many books on relationships, raising kids and how we can avoid making big blunders in them.
No, I don't agree with every jot & tiddle she says... but for the most part, this woman has a message well worth listening to. She does not condone "Shack up jobs", lazy parenting, stupid behaviors and people who are always driven by emotions, rather than using their brains to reasoning things out. Give her 2 weeks of your time and see if what she espouses does indeed make sense.
She is a strong advocate for children and when most Mom's call about wanting to shack up or get married before the child is of age, she comes down pretty strong on what the child needs VS what the mother would like. Her point is that a child needs a committed relationship and someone to call Daddy for a long time to come. That makes all the sense in the world to me as well.
In short, we have enough screwed up kids in the world today, because there is no stability from a male figure and/or "Mom" is not mature enough to make smart choices about relationships. Being lonely or picking a new jerk to help raise her kiddlet(s) is not a favorable option for most call in players.
Check it out with eyes wide open,
Swez
ttocs on 06/12/2005 03:30:52
Her and I have always had a special relationship, and I have known her for 10 yrs now. We dated for a short time with the agreement that we would still be friends if it didn't work out as the friendship meant too much to us to loose. yes there was a strange period afterwards but it was not long before we were back to were we used to be. It wasn't till after I moved out of town and she started dating another looser before she missed what she had, I think. I agree with you about the daughter and not wanting to screw her up. Like I said I was there the day she was born and she has also been special to me, and me to her. Missy puts me on a bit of a pedistal as I was the only person she had to call when she needed to move out of the abusive fathers apartment, and had no where to go. I think her daughter has picked up on this and acts accordingly as well, never had any trouble from her...
Oh, and we used to stay up and talk while listening to dr laura, funny enough.
swez on 06/12/2005 10:57:55
The fact you two have a long standing friendship and can pick things up at will, is a definite plus. That is a great ice breaker out of the box.
However, casual dating, serious dating, courtship and marriage are very different phases.
Dating is a blast, but hard on the wallet for most guys. If we are lucky enough to find a finaciall secure partner, then sharing dating expenses can be a real plus too.
Serious dating is a real rush on many fronts. A pattern has developed and some of the masks start to come off. We see the real deal about each other. Some we will enjoy, others will be hard to adjust to and some habits may be almost intolerable. This is the "make it or break it" stage for most couples. Unfortunately, if partners at this stage have been sharing bodily fluids by now, hard to give that perk up. This stage makes both partners literally bonded to each other. Even if more things are wrong with the relationship then good, many will remain in this arrangement to their own detriment. (BTDT, more than once)
Courtship is where the rubber starts to meet the pavement. We are hopefully in sync with each others needs and know the "baggage" that comes with the package. We meet each others families, see the backgrounds in each package and now, it's time to take a long, hard look at future plans... yep, engagement and eventually marriage.
This may seem like the beginning of the end to some diehard bachelors. Are we ready to settle down, become providers and protectors of the fair maden? Can she deal with our idiot behaviors? Can we deal with her erratic moods? (PMS, I feel fat, ugly, bad hair days... whatever) If she ever says something like... "Honey, do I look fat in this outfit?" Know you are about to make a very tough call.
1. Well dear, you are fat and that outfit just proves the obvious. (Big mistake, this night out will be a disaster and you may be in the doghouse for a long while) Brutal honesty has a big pricetag.
2. Or, You look fine sweetie. Let's go out and have some fun. (Not a bad answer. Good middle of the road response too.
3. Baby, you always look great to me. I am always happy to show you off to my friends and such. (You hit the jackpot dude!) This is going to be a very nice evening out and better when we get back home.
Marriage is hopefully the beginning of a long journey as a bonded pair. We often learn a lot about ourselves and each other in the day to day things. How do we work out differences, styles of arguing, learning how to speak a language that suits each partners' needs or preferences and hopefully by now have figured out that LOVE is not an emotion. It is a mindset of doing what's right, even when it's hard. LOVE is an action we choose daily.
These are just my observations and ramblings. Have studied the dynamics of relationships and see some definite patterns on how people make or ruin a relationship. Probably the biggest "deal breaker" boils down to selfishness, immaturity or self-centerness.
The Oak tree is strong and stout. However, it can fracture in the strong winds of life that often help to make it strong. The Willow tree is flexible and able to bend with wind and storms. It's a messy tree that loves watering. The more water it gets, the faster it will grow. Funny thing though, men have to be a hybrid of both. Able to withstand the storms of life and still remain strong and flexible. Men can be magestic Redwoods, the towering Ponderosa Pine and sadly, the friendly Birch tree that cannot stand up to much ruckus before it caves in and falls apart.
As for women, not sure what kind of tree they are, to be honest. Maybe a fruit/nut bearing tree of some sort. Some are like fine apples or orange trees. They produce wonderful fruit in due seasons. Others are a bit thorney and produce bad apples too. (Crab apples) Still others are just plain old nut trees. If you like pecans, walnuts or similar, look for one of those. Life is rarely dull with a nut tree in the yard.
I should write a book someday. It may not sell well, but experiences are worth capturing on paper. If all else fails, can be used for fire starting or toilet paper huh?
Swez
MrBrownstone on 06/13/2005 15:43:10
I feel that not enough attention has been paid to my girlfriends and too much has been paid to YOUR needs.
Can't someone at least acknowledge that I picked the right 2 bad girls? :-)
That...or, "..MR B. How come you wear the same purple pantsuits to court?"
:-)
swez on 06/13/2005 23:30:53
Uhmmmm, would you bring either or both of those girls home to Mom for her review? That is the acid test for most guys. Have to pass muster with Mom or it's no deal. Afterall, who knows more about the right woman for her darling son, then dear ol' Mom. Just ask her, she raised you and knows you pretty well right?
The other comment... don't like the personal editorial or commentary? Can delete it, edit it or just leave it be. Just been musing outloud (in writing) about some observations and experiences over the past 30+ years about relationships and life in general. If any find it interesting... that's fine. If not, I'll delete them or others can choose to ignore them. Does that sound good?
Swez
MrBrownstone on 06/14/2005 13:08:22
I was just teasing Swezzy poo!!!
Take the girls home to Mom? She loves Democrats...so probably wouldn't be a problem so long as she doesn't know they are BOTH mine!!!
I was just expecting more snyde remarks, and was pointing out that it was a letdown.
Post as you like...
ttocs on 06/15/2005 10:36:10
sorry, I crashed it and scared everybody off........
swez on 06/15/2005 18:47:13
Ditto... but what the hey, boards been a bit slow of late, so why not throw in some off topic discussions to past time?
Mr. B.,
What the heck, take em both home to Mom & Dad. Sell the fact they are both liberal Dems and you cannot decide which one to pick. See what thier read is. If they like both, become a Morman.
Ya know, can always move to Salt Lake City, and do the paligamy thing. It's pretty common and expected that men have mulitiple wives there. Have no idea what it would be like to have multiple wives under one roof. Maybe a cat fight would be fun to watch? Or, set up two residences and split your time according to who's raggin that week.
Note: When women live together for a time, their bodies tend to syncronize and both cycle at the same time. Can you imagine how King David must have felt with his harem? Maybe that's why he called for Bathsheba ???
FYI: Jewish law prohibited a man from lying with or even touching a woman during her cycle. She was considered "unclean" and any male that fooled with that, also became "unclean".
Swez SMILE
MrBrownstone on 06/20/2005 14:11:50
Thanks for that lesson in biology.....I'd rather take anatomy via Braille....finding a lab partner at the sorority.
At any rate, I guess I could flip/flop between the 2.....BURRRRRN!!!
What an internship program!
2 for the price of 1
Hey, hotstuff...wanna post our bail????
Boy, I gosta take shots at myself here.
At any rate, Yes, I too have heard that if a bunch of women live together, eventually they all become lesbians.....!
swez on 06/21/2005 14:28:13
Anatomy by braille.... hummm, not a bad idea if you get to choose the lab partner too. But, if one claims to be blind and needs to learn by touch only... where would you go first to find the right lab partner???
Or should I say... what steps would be used to find suitable lab
partner(s)? Ahhhh, let's see....errr (scratch that) "feel" out the possibilities:
1. Leg man
2. Boob man
3. Tush man
4. Hair fettish
5. Foot fettish
6. Other ???
Guess one would have to rank them in order of preference huh? LOL
Where can one sign up for such classes? Am a few credits short of a "Happy Meal" for a PhD. Are there 101,200,300 and advanced courses in this field? What the hey... can't hurt to ask...
Swez
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