Does anyone have any ideas on how to secure my sub box from any potention theives doing a smash and grab. I was just thinging about screwing a mounting bracket into the back of it and using a basic bicylce chain/lock on it so I can still slide it around if need be.
So how have you guys secured your boxes in your trunks if you have or do you have any ides how to do it.
Thanks,
Jay
P.S. I have an alarm system, but still get paranoid sometimes becaue I have been broken into once already and had the HU stolen. This was even in my parents driveway, and they live in a pretty nice neighborhood too.
Replies (13)
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 12:36:18
Yea, I went away for a week and didn't want to leave my equipment in my truck (I was in the process of putting it in) so I left it in my appartment. Sure enough, the sliding glass door got pried open and someone stole my amp and 2 subs!
I had a computer and TV sitting right there too, but they just wanted the car audio stuff.
Anyway, back to your question.
I have seen screws that only screw in one way (tighten). The 2 adjacent sides of the slot where the screwdriver head goes are rounded off so the screwdriver head would just go up the little ramp and the screw can't come undone without drilling it out with a drill bit (and even that would be a bit trickey). I don't know what they're called, but someone else here might.
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 12:42:15
I just did a quick google search online for (screws "one way") and I came up with this:
http://www.hudsonfasteners.com/security.htm
About half way down they have the one way screws so you can see what I was talking about, and they have a bunch of other security type screws too.
P0werLifter on 03/18/2005 12:54:12
I'd look around for security screws / T nut setups so a theif would either A. Have a toolset with specialty tools to jack your Ish,,,or B. Just take the whole car =). With my setup i have specialty screws that screw in my woofer to the box and the box with the woofer weights in excess of 200lbs. not only that but to get the box out they would have to A. Take out the seats...both of em...B. Take out the seatbelts. C. Get the woofer thats screwed down using the special security screws...then they would have u unbolt the box from the floorpan.
Shot gun with 00buck and American Bulldog come standard with my security system. Not only that..but at work..theres a camera on my truck whenever im there GRIN
My suggestion..bolt the box to the floor pan and secure the woofer into the enclosure using security screws that are not comming...do NOT use allen bolts
-PL
LC1 on 03/18/2005 14:22:27
See thats the thing, I don't want to bolt it to the floor of the trunk. I often need to move the box around to put golf clubs and other bigger items in. Also my spare tire well is under the trunk floor like most cars but the only problem is that almost the entire floor has to come out to get at the spare tire. So I don't really want to fasten it down, I'll figure something out.
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 16:56:30
then your first idea about the bike lock might work.
You might be able to connect some kind of rings to the box with a real strong glue or those secure screws and put the chain from somewhere on the vehicle to the ring on the box.
swez on 03/18/2005 18:42:54
Consider Eye bolts, tee nuts a epoxy the bolts into the tee nuts so they cannot be removed easily. Then, use jacketed cable that cannot be cut short of using bolt cutters.
Securing the subs will be harder to do unless one-way screw heads or hex head fasteners that have that little nipple in the center. Need a special tool to install and remove them. Button Socket screws.
This one looks like a winner. A #8 or 10 will do nicely. Need the mating tool bit too.
Swez
uochronos on 03/19/2005 02:14:37
i put my sub bux in without the sub in it then used the bottome of the box to bolt it to my cars body then put tghe sub in and used Torx screws to bolt sub in... unless they want to uninstall it all they have issues getting it out quick.
or if you dont need to remove the box you can after bolting threw the inside bottom of the box put a piece of wood over the screwes use some sort of light glue to adhere it that way theyw ont be able to figure out how its screwed down...
so many options though in all reality..
places like builder square and home depot have all kinds of special bit bolts and locking bolts etc...
ttocs on 03/19/2005 09:16:36
I have a 1/2 steel cable that I found at a hardware(also seen at bike shops) that I use to lock my Bike to my truck. I am not saying there is no way through it but it should be ok. There are ways around cheap bike locks if you know how. Get a cable er chain and a masterlock. It would also be important not to show this feature off(as with any security feature), as if a theif knows what he has to do he can bring the right tools...
gearhead on 03/19/2005 10:08:02
You could use a padlock hasp. Mount a hinged shackle to the trunk floor and mount the hasp to the sub box. When the sub box is removed from the vehicle, the shackle will sit flat on the trunk floor and not be in the way.
swez on 03/19/2005 19:01:04
That's a great idea (hasp hinges) GH.... Just make sure to use "security" fasteners so some joker will not have a easy time getting the subs out. Will need a special tool to take out the screws.
Swez
gearhead on 03/20/2005 02:50:16
If you install it correctly, the shackle will cover the hasp screws on the sub, and the sub box will be cover the shackle screws. No need for security screws that way.
swez on 03/20/2005 09:57:58
True if using bolts inside the sub box.... but I would thing vibration dampening would be needed to prevent mechanical noises that may be created by the hasp hinges. Silicone or foam tape might be a good solution.
Swez
PS Pretty clever idea there gearhead. You've watching too many McGiver shows? LOL
gearhead on 03/20/2005 11:51:51
I used this idea to secure my toolbox in the back of my P/U many years ago.
So how have you guys secured your boxes in your trunks if you have or do you have any ides how to do it.
Thanks,
Jay
P.S. I have an alarm system, but still get paranoid sometimes becaue I have been broken into once already and had the HU stolen. This was even in my parents driveway, and they live in a pretty nice neighborhood too.
Replies (13)
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 12:36:18
Yea, I went away for a week and didn't want to leave my equipment in my truck (I was in the process of putting it in) so I left it in my appartment. Sure enough, the sliding glass door got pried open and someone stole my amp and 2 subs!
I had a computer and TV sitting right there too, but they just wanted the car audio stuff.
Anyway, back to your question.
I have seen screws that only screw in one way (tighten). The 2 adjacent sides of the slot where the screwdriver head goes are rounded off so the screwdriver head would just go up the little ramp and the screw can't come undone without drilling it out with a drill bit (and even that would be a bit trickey). I don't know what they're called, but someone else here might.
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 12:42:15
I just did a quick google search online for (screws "one way") and I came up with this:
http://www.hudsonfasteners.com/security.htm
About half way down they have the one way screws so you can see what I was talking about, and they have a bunch of other security type screws too.
P0werLifter on 03/18/2005 12:54:12
I'd look around for security screws / T nut setups so a theif would either A. Have a toolset with specialty tools to jack your Ish,,,or B. Just take the whole car =). With my setup i have specialty screws that screw in my woofer to the box and the box with the woofer weights in excess of 200lbs. not only that but to get the box out they would have to A. Take out the seats...both of em...B. Take out the seatbelts. C. Get the woofer thats screwed down using the special security screws...then they would have u unbolt the box from the floorpan.
Shot gun with 00buck and American Bulldog come standard with my security system. Not only that..but at work..theres a camera on my truck whenever im there GRIN
My suggestion..bolt the box to the floor pan and secure the woofer into the enclosure using security screws that are not comming...do NOT use allen bolts
-PL
LC1 on 03/18/2005 14:22:27
See thats the thing, I don't want to bolt it to the floor of the trunk. I often need to move the box around to put golf clubs and other bigger items in. Also my spare tire well is under the trunk floor like most cars but the only problem is that almost the entire floor has to come out to get at the spare tire. So I don't really want to fasten it down, I'll figure something out.
alanjlamore on 03/18/2005 16:56:30
then your first idea about the bike lock might work.
You might be able to connect some kind of rings to the box with a real strong glue or those secure screws and put the chain from somewhere on the vehicle to the ring on the box.
swez on 03/18/2005 18:42:54
Consider Eye bolts, tee nuts a epoxy the bolts into the tee nuts so they cannot be removed easily. Then, use jacketed cable that cannot be cut short of using bolt cutters.
Securing the subs will be harder to do unless one-way screw heads or hex head fasteners that have that little nipple in the center. Need a special tool to install and remove them. Button Socket screws.
This one looks like a winner. A #8 or 10 will do nicely. Need the mating tool bit too.
Swez
uochronos on 03/19/2005 02:14:37
i put my sub bux in without the sub in it then used the bottome of the box to bolt it to my cars body then put tghe sub in and used Torx screws to bolt sub in... unless they want to uninstall it all they have issues getting it out quick.
or if you dont need to remove the box you can after bolting threw the inside bottom of the box put a piece of wood over the screwes use some sort of light glue to adhere it that way theyw ont be able to figure out how its screwed down...
so many options though in all reality..
places like builder square and home depot have all kinds of special bit bolts and locking bolts etc...
ttocs on 03/19/2005 09:16:36
I have a 1/2 steel cable that I found at a hardware(also seen at bike shops) that I use to lock my Bike to my truck. I am not saying there is no way through it but it should be ok. There are ways around cheap bike locks if you know how. Get a cable er chain and a masterlock. It would also be important not to show this feature off(as with any security feature), as if a theif knows what he has to do he can bring the right tools...
gearhead on 03/19/2005 10:08:02
You could use a padlock hasp. Mount a hinged shackle to the trunk floor and mount the hasp to the sub box. When the sub box is removed from the vehicle, the shackle will sit flat on the trunk floor and not be in the way.
swez on 03/19/2005 19:01:04
That's a great idea (hasp hinges) GH.... Just make sure to use "security" fasteners so some joker will not have a easy time getting the subs out. Will need a special tool to take out the screws.
Swez
gearhead on 03/20/2005 02:50:16
If you install it correctly, the shackle will cover the hasp screws on the sub, and the sub box will be cover the shackle screws. No need for security screws that way.
swez on 03/20/2005 09:57:58
True if using bolts inside the sub box.... but I would thing vibration dampening would be needed to prevent mechanical noises that may be created by the hasp hinges. Silicone or foam tape might be a good solution.
Swez
PS Pretty clever idea there gearhead. You've watching too many McGiver shows? LOL
gearhead on 03/20/2005 11:51:51
I used this idea to secure my toolbox in the back of my P/U many years ago.
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