OK, short and sweet, I'd like as many car audio brands as you can think of that make GOOD stuff, especially speakers.
I don't mean the ones that make speakers in the $200 - $300 range. That's way more money than I'd pay, even if I had it to pay. I'm talking about $100 or less, but not less than $50 - $60 for a pair of 6.5's. Is that an unreasonable expectation to find better than average stuff for under $100?
I'd like brands that aren't your everyday, seen all over the place stuff. I'm trying to get away from Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood, department store stuff.
I've been researching brands like Phoenix Gold and Rockford Fosgate. The good names that I can't find in stores around where I live.
Maybe we should put up a list of audio brand names on this site for people like me who just need new ideas and can't think of one. I'd include the reputable brands and maybe any new names that look promising. There's a lot of stuff flyin' around on eBay I've never heard of and some look good, but you can't tell by a picture and number ratings. So how do you tell?
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compvr15s on 02/6/2005 11:24:46
http://thezeb.com/p-CDT-Audio-CL-61A-6-1-2-inch-Component-System-101083.htm
have you checked these out, they are $150 but you are going to get quality comparable to the best out there, orignally 300 but color is not what CDT expected so they discounted them.
have you searched ebay for a good set of comps, id look into maybe infinity, kicker, focal, jl audio, diamon audio, pheonix gold, and ma audio also makes decent equipment. some may be out of the price range you are looking for but are superior products. good luck
swez on 02/6/2005 11:59:03
MA audio makes some pretty good speakers in the price range mentioned. Can find them listed at Zeb audio. Polk can be a good option and I think if you get some input from Victor on Blaupunkt gear, he can give you the low down on their products as he reps them in India now.
If you can fit them in up front, CDT's CL-61a's are a great sound at a real bargain price. Avoid buying cheap off brands and low end name brand speakers at Wally's World, as it's just wasting time and $$$.
Tip: Having a good EQ/DSP HU or add on unit can make a cheap speaker sound notably better. More power to speakers will help bring cheap or quality speakers up to par as well.
Gearhead made a quantum leap in his system by adding a Bahn Line driver, Parametric EQ to his system. I believe he got it off E-bay for ~ $60.00.
http://www.audiobahninc.com/frame2004.html
AEQ6Q
IN-DASH EQUALIZER & PRE-AMP
Five-band stereo equalizer (45Hz, 100Hz, 700Hz, 2kHz and 15kHz)
Subwoofer frequencies adjustable 35Hz/250Hz
Universal half-DIN chassis for ease of installation
Active gain pre-amplifiers with adjustable input sensitivity
Volume gain with up to 8v output
Individual left and right sensitivity controls for DVD input
Low noise BI-FET op-amp design yields minimum distortion
On-Board 30V bi-polar switching power supply
Subwoofer output and level controls
Gold-plated RCA input connectors
20dB headroom eliminates signal overload
Main / DVD input selector
Dimensions: 1" (H) x 6 7/8" (W) x 3 13/16" (L)
Good luck,
Swez
Victor on 02/6/2005 13:18:50
Ok.. Here it is....
I have been dealing in Sony, Pioneer, Blaupunkt, Alpine.. and now just added Polk to the line up.. and trying to come to terms with the kenwood guys for a new addition.
I have also installed JLAudio, JBL, Audio Bahn, Boston Acoustics, MTX, Kicker and Infinity.
There is a whole lot more options to choose from, But with experience I would say a few i mean 3-5 selective brands can give you all the necessary things and you dont need to look at others.
Just that one should have a proper understanding for selecting a particular products. Now a days many brands are making real good products and it becomes really confusing to choose.
If you are looking for good Components and Coaxials there are a few brands I have short listed,
Alpine, Blaupunkt, BA, CDT's, Diamond Audio, Focal, MA, Polk, Phoenix Gold.
I guess these few brands can supply you with great options in terms of quality and/or pricing.
Plan :-
Requirement - 6.5" components ( or are u looking for coaxials?)
Power Factor - ( what kinda amplification are u looking at )
Rest of the system - Please tell us what the rest of your system comprises of..??
Budget - < 100 $.
Buying - Are you planning to audition the product before buying it ? or are you happy with buying it online without listening to it..?
Future - Are you planning for future upgrades in terms of HU, Amp, Subs, Speakers, EQ, DSP, Line drivers etc.
See i am telling you all this unwanted stuff because so many factors go into making a system.
Lets have a planned approach.
comments...??
Victor..
audeogod on 02/6/2005 15:03:44
Well, Victor, I've already got a system going with a Pioneer HU DEH-P41, Pioneer 4" coaxials, and Sony Xplod 6.5 3-way coaxials, a Rockford Fosgate Punch 250a2 amp, and a Kicker 8" sub.
I was looking to make a break from the department store type gear(everything I've got came from Wal-Mart except amp and sub), and all the commonly seen brands around here, and get something new and different. I've got all this in a truck now, and I'd replace whatever I had to to make it sound better, but of course, on a budget and over time. My wife would not go for it very well if I was just to come in and say,"ok honey, I just spent the house payment money on a new set of 12" subs and amp".
I'm sure that one would get anybody in trouble.
But I like to go ahead and plan ahead anyway. Cause tax time is coming up and a refund may be in my future. I have her car, my truck, and a home/car audio system I'm planning and working on all three at the same time. So, I'm doing research at the minute for the best sounds, looks, and performance for a good price that the common man can afford.
But most likely everything will be coaxial design instead of components. Maybe not in her car doors, but everywhere else it would be. The only way I'd do comp's in all three systems is if I got an amazing deal in the same brand as what I wanted coaxials in.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who responded and thanks for the additional names that appeared here in this post. I've been looking at a set of Phoenix Gold 6.5's, model # is OCTANE - R6.5c. They look like good 2-way coaxials. I've never heard a pair, but I've heard that Phoenix Gold makes good stuff. Since I also heard this from the same bunch of people here and elsewhere that said Audiobahn could be better, then I gotta believe it, cause my recent experience with Audiobahn proved exactly what everyone was saying all this time.
In order to try a pair of these Phoenix Gold's, I'll have to order them on the net, and take a chance. Hope I'm not wrong. And even though I think Pioneer sounds alright, well.....even good, I'd like it if these Phoenix Golds sounded better. Do you think Phoenix Gold or some other high end name would make a better coaxial than Pioneer? I know that might sound like a dumb question with a common sense answer, but what I mean is can I expect more from a Phoenix Gold that I would a department store coaxial of a reputable brand like Pioneer or is it just gonna sound the same cause it's another coaxial?
Victor on 02/6/2005 15:15:45
Pioneer is known for HU's .. They make some very good HU's.. but regarding the coax there are many brands out there better than the pioneer.
The ones you are looking at PG octane series is a very successful line by PG, you can definitely expect more from it.
Polk makes some amazing coaxials, have a look at the MMC 650 and the dB 650 the MMC is a higher range in terms of quality, performance, power handling as well as pricing, The dB range is one with higher sensitivity to give louder sound with less amplification, they are nice quality coaxials too.
Blaupunkt has the GT, ODx, TS and the Velocity series, Velocity is high end gear. all of the others are decent performers for the price you pay, definitely better than any pioneer coax in the same price.
Cerwin Vega has come up with its new line the V-mag series, they are definitely worth the price.
Thats all i got to share..
hope that helps..
Victor..
audeogod on 02/6/2005 15:46:15
Whoah! You mean that Blaupunkt is better than Pioneer? Somehow I had the impression that Blaupunkt was just a little better than Jensen. Don't really know how other than hearsay, cause I've never had any or heard any.
So Blaupunkt is good. Does this include the ones that have the clear or clear/blue cones? Cause I had a neat idea involving a light or LED and a pair of these. You see where I'm going with this?
Victor on 02/6/2005 16:26:05
Yes that is the TS ( transparent series) they are real good ones especially if you are looking to show them off. They were designed to show off with lights behind them. There are also custom rims with led's available for the Transparent series. Blaupunkt does not make the rims except for the 12" subs but there are some etailers which sell these rims for 10 - 15 $.
Regarding the sound, yes they are much better then most of the pioneer products available in that price. only the new series from pioneer the ones with amarid fibre cones ( the yellow cones ) the REV series are real good ones from pioneer for a change.
otherwise blau makes products much better than pioneer, I dont wanna come down so harsh on such a famous company, but personally i would buy nothing except HU from pioneer. And even in HU's there is Alpine, Clarion,Eclipse, Kenwood and Blaupunkt which make equal or better HU's.
Victor..
uochronos on 02/6/2005 17:20:00
hehe well i'm jumping in here a bit late but anyway...
First you dont get really good car audio speakers, HU's, etc for under 100$ you can get some good mid level products but not going to find alot of well above average products in this price range.
hoeever the following i have seen good results from
Alpine(if shoped well)
Infinity
Pioneer Premier
CDT(if shoped well... alot on ebay right now)
MA audio
those would be my first choices in this price range
audeogod on 02/6/2005 18:20:43
Well, I guess I know you don't get REALLY good ones for under $100 but I've been looking around, on eBay mostly, and seen brands like Phoenix Gold for the same prices I'd pay in a store for Pioneer(and that includes shipping too), and I always thought that PG was way better than Pioneer. So, I thought I'd see what other brands there were out there that would compare similarly in $$$ but be better in product. I got a huge list of audio makers from the other website Swez posted for me to check in another post that was totally unrelated to car audio. I recognized a lot of the names I've seen on here like Image Dynamics, Boston Acoustics, and more. I'm gonna start checking them out to see what they are like.
On paper, all speakers with similar descriptions and number ratings might as well be the same. Pioneer numbers look about the same as a lot of the better names I've been told to check out like Infinity for example. Specs aren't that much off. But sound is supposed to be completely different. So if I run across one I haven't heard anything on before, I may ask one of you all if it's better than what I've been used to.
I guess you can tell from my postings that I'm more interested in speakers for mids, midbass, and highs than I am anything else. That's cause I've already got my pick on an HU brand(I like Pioneer), and I think that most amps with good names and ratings will do the job(like Alpine, USAcoustics, Rockford Fosgate). Maybe some better than others, but I just can't see that it would make a huge difference as long as it was a good one. But the speakers on the other hand are the final level it has to go through before I get to hear it.
In my mind, the deck and the amps are just manipulating and exchanging signals and wattages. Even though this is a very important part of it, it's how that speaker responds physically to those wattages that make the sounds I hear though and that could make all the difference if it wasn't as good as it could be, no matter what the signal was(as I've seen with Audiobahn). I want it to be as good as possible, but not break me up either. I can't afford to go extreme in speakers, or I wouldn't have but one pair for all the systems I'm working on.
uochronos on 02/6/2005 18:31:31
yes you got the idea most high end amps have slightly differnt designs but they well all get you a good quality signal..
as for phoenix gold speakers i love PG i have more respect for there amps then any other company i think... but there coaxil and components just are not up to par with the other Big boys in that field at least in my opinion... CDT, Focal, Diamon, MBquart, alpine all make really great coaxils and components...
Chronos
audeogod on 02/6/2005 22:02:12
I just found a set of Phoenix Gold 6.5 components, the Octane series, on eBay for $85 shipped and insured. Brand new. I know you don't like PG's as well as some others, but wouldn't these be better than a set of Sony 3-way coaxials that I have now?
They are 70wrms, 140wpeak, 90 dB, 60 - 24kHz with an external crossover with a slope of 18 dB/octave. This set has an 11mm mylar tweeter. Woofer has a poly cone that is aluminum coated, and rubber surrounds. I have a Pioneer amp I can run them on, but it's only 35wrms per channel, 70wpeak per channel. Or I can run that on the Kicker 8 that I have, and use my Punch 250a2, if it wouldn't be too strong. It's rated at 62.5wrms per channel, but that might be lite compared to it's actual output.
Any thoughts on how this would sound? I listen to all rock and metal. No rap and no country. No anything else. Only rock. Well, if you count rap/rock as rock anyway. I don't want it to be too harsh on my ears. I'm afraid of aluminum cones for that reason.
uochronos on 02/6/2005 22:38:08
ya they are defiantly better then coaxils.
Chronos
cplkittle on 02/7/2005 00:33:29
This is a tough one to comment on..
All companies make speaker lines from basic entry level to competition, and 99% of the time, you get what you pay for.
Alot of talk of shying away from aluminum cones here.. I was partial to silk in tweeters, but now have found out that it all depends on location and preference. Volume destroys hearing, not harshness. I highly recommend aluminum midrange drivers for their brighter sound. I can't tell a difference in subs, and almost all quality components have adjustable tweeter levels if they sound too harsh.
audeogod on 02/7/2005 08:36:20
Well, I wasn't really meaning that it might destroy my ears. I was concerned with the way it will sound. I know you can't compare a set of PG 6.5 components to a set of SPL coaxial 4x6's......but about 2 years ago, I got a set of the SPL's with aluminum coated cones and they sounded HORRIBLE. I threw them away. The midrange was so harsh it sounded like the speakers were chewing it up before letting me hear it. That's what worries me. I don't want that sound again.
I don't mean the ones that make speakers in the $200 - $300 range. That's way more money than I'd pay, even if I had it to pay. I'm talking about $100 or less, but not less than $50 - $60 for a pair of 6.5's. Is that an unreasonable expectation to find better than average stuff for under $100?
I'd like brands that aren't your everyday, seen all over the place stuff. I'm trying to get away from Pioneer, Sony, Kenwood, department store stuff.
I've been researching brands like Phoenix Gold and Rockford Fosgate. The good names that I can't find in stores around where I live.
Maybe we should put up a list of audio brand names on this site for people like me who just need new ideas and can't think of one. I'd include the reputable brands and maybe any new names that look promising. There's a lot of stuff flyin' around on eBay I've never heard of and some look good, but you can't tell by a picture and number ratings. So how do you tell?
Replies (14)
compvr15s on 02/6/2005 11:24:46
http://thezeb.com/p-CDT-Audio-CL-61A-6-1-2-inch-Component-System-101083.htm
have you checked these out, they are $150 but you are going to get quality comparable to the best out there, orignally 300 but color is not what CDT expected so they discounted them.
have you searched ebay for a good set of comps, id look into maybe infinity, kicker, focal, jl audio, diamon audio, pheonix gold, and ma audio also makes decent equipment. some may be out of the price range you are looking for but are superior products. good luck
swez on 02/6/2005 11:59:03
MA audio makes some pretty good speakers in the price range mentioned. Can find them listed at Zeb audio. Polk can be a good option and I think if you get some input from Victor on Blaupunkt gear, he can give you the low down on their products as he reps them in India now.
If you can fit them in up front, CDT's CL-61a's are a great sound at a real bargain price. Avoid buying cheap off brands and low end name brand speakers at Wally's World, as it's just wasting time and $$$.
Tip: Having a good EQ/DSP HU or add on unit can make a cheap speaker sound notably better. More power to speakers will help bring cheap or quality speakers up to par as well.
Gearhead made a quantum leap in his system by adding a Bahn Line driver, Parametric EQ to his system. I believe he got it off E-bay for ~ $60.00.
http://www.audiobahninc.com/frame2004.html
AEQ6Q
IN-DASH EQUALIZER & PRE-AMP
Five-band stereo equalizer (45Hz, 100Hz, 700Hz, 2kHz and 15kHz)
Subwoofer frequencies adjustable 35Hz/250Hz
Universal half-DIN chassis for ease of installation
Active gain pre-amplifiers with adjustable input sensitivity
Volume gain with up to 8v output
Individual left and right sensitivity controls for DVD input
Low noise BI-FET op-amp design yields minimum distortion
On-Board 30V bi-polar switching power supply
Subwoofer output and level controls
Gold-plated RCA input connectors
20dB headroom eliminates signal overload
Main / DVD input selector
Dimensions: 1" (H) x 6 7/8" (W) x 3 13/16" (L)
Good luck,
Swez
Victor on 02/6/2005 13:18:50
Ok.. Here it is....
I have been dealing in Sony, Pioneer, Blaupunkt, Alpine.. and now just added Polk to the line up.. and trying to come to terms with the kenwood guys for a new addition.
I have also installed JLAudio, JBL, Audio Bahn, Boston Acoustics, MTX, Kicker and Infinity.
There is a whole lot more options to choose from, But with experience I would say a few i mean 3-5 selective brands can give you all the necessary things and you dont need to look at others.
Just that one should have a proper understanding for selecting a particular products. Now a days many brands are making real good products and it becomes really confusing to choose.
If you are looking for good Components and Coaxials there are a few brands I have short listed,
Alpine, Blaupunkt, BA, CDT's, Diamond Audio, Focal, MA, Polk, Phoenix Gold.
I guess these few brands can supply you with great options in terms of quality and/or pricing.
Plan :-
Requirement - 6.5" components ( or are u looking for coaxials?)
Power Factor - ( what kinda amplification are u looking at )
Rest of the system - Please tell us what the rest of your system comprises of..??
Budget - < 100 $.
Buying - Are you planning to audition the product before buying it ? or are you happy with buying it online without listening to it..?
Future - Are you planning for future upgrades in terms of HU, Amp, Subs, Speakers, EQ, DSP, Line drivers etc.
See i am telling you all this unwanted stuff because so many factors go into making a system.
Lets have a planned approach.
comments...??
Victor..
audeogod on 02/6/2005 15:03:44
Well, Victor, I've already got a system going with a Pioneer HU DEH-P41, Pioneer 4" coaxials, and Sony Xplod 6.5 3-way coaxials, a Rockford Fosgate Punch 250a2 amp, and a Kicker 8" sub.
I was looking to make a break from the department store type gear(everything I've got came from Wal-Mart except amp and sub), and all the commonly seen brands around here, and get something new and different. I've got all this in a truck now, and I'd replace whatever I had to to make it sound better, but of course, on a budget and over time. My wife would not go for it very well if I was just to come in and say,"ok honey, I just spent the house payment money on a new set of 12" subs and amp".
I'm sure that one would get anybody in trouble.
But I like to go ahead and plan ahead anyway. Cause tax time is coming up and a refund may be in my future. I have her car, my truck, and a home/car audio system I'm planning and working on all three at the same time. So, I'm doing research at the minute for the best sounds, looks, and performance for a good price that the common man can afford.
But most likely everything will be coaxial design instead of components. Maybe not in her car doors, but everywhere else it would be. The only way I'd do comp's in all three systems is if I got an amazing deal in the same brand as what I wanted coaxials in.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who responded and thanks for the additional names that appeared here in this post. I've been looking at a set of Phoenix Gold 6.5's, model # is OCTANE - R6.5c. They look like good 2-way coaxials. I've never heard a pair, but I've heard that Phoenix Gold makes good stuff. Since I also heard this from the same bunch of people here and elsewhere that said Audiobahn could be better, then I gotta believe it, cause my recent experience with Audiobahn proved exactly what everyone was saying all this time.
In order to try a pair of these Phoenix Gold's, I'll have to order them on the net, and take a chance. Hope I'm not wrong. And even though I think Pioneer sounds alright, well.....even good, I'd like it if these Phoenix Golds sounded better. Do you think Phoenix Gold or some other high end name would make a better coaxial than Pioneer? I know that might sound like a dumb question with a common sense answer, but what I mean is can I expect more from a Phoenix Gold that I would a department store coaxial of a reputable brand like Pioneer or is it just gonna sound the same cause it's another coaxial?
Victor on 02/6/2005 15:15:45
Pioneer is known for HU's .. They make some very good HU's.. but regarding the coax there are many brands out there better than the pioneer.
The ones you are looking at PG octane series is a very successful line by PG, you can definitely expect more from it.
Polk makes some amazing coaxials, have a look at the MMC 650 and the dB 650 the MMC is a higher range in terms of quality, performance, power handling as well as pricing, The dB range is one with higher sensitivity to give louder sound with less amplification, they are nice quality coaxials too.
Blaupunkt has the GT, ODx, TS and the Velocity series, Velocity is high end gear. all of the others are decent performers for the price you pay, definitely better than any pioneer coax in the same price.
Cerwin Vega has come up with its new line the V-mag series, they are definitely worth the price.
Thats all i got to share..
hope that helps..
Victor..
audeogod on 02/6/2005 15:46:15
Whoah! You mean that Blaupunkt is better than Pioneer? Somehow I had the impression that Blaupunkt was just a little better than Jensen. Don't really know how other than hearsay, cause I've never had any or heard any.
So Blaupunkt is good. Does this include the ones that have the clear or clear/blue cones? Cause I had a neat idea involving a light or LED and a pair of these. You see where I'm going with this?
Victor on 02/6/2005 16:26:05
Yes that is the TS ( transparent series) they are real good ones especially if you are looking to show them off. They were designed to show off with lights behind them. There are also custom rims with led's available for the Transparent series. Blaupunkt does not make the rims except for the 12" subs but there are some etailers which sell these rims for 10 - 15 $.
Regarding the sound, yes they are much better then most of the pioneer products available in that price. only the new series from pioneer the ones with amarid fibre cones ( the yellow cones ) the REV series are real good ones from pioneer for a change.
otherwise blau makes products much better than pioneer, I dont wanna come down so harsh on such a famous company, but personally i would buy nothing except HU from pioneer. And even in HU's there is Alpine, Clarion,Eclipse, Kenwood and Blaupunkt which make equal or better HU's.
Victor..
uochronos on 02/6/2005 17:20:00
hehe well i'm jumping in here a bit late but anyway...
First you dont get really good car audio speakers, HU's, etc for under 100$ you can get some good mid level products but not going to find alot of well above average products in this price range.
hoeever the following i have seen good results from
Alpine(if shoped well)
Infinity
Pioneer Premier
CDT(if shoped well... alot on ebay right now)
MA audio
those would be my first choices in this price range
audeogod on 02/6/2005 18:20:43
Well, I guess I know you don't get REALLY good ones for under $100 but I've been looking around, on eBay mostly, and seen brands like Phoenix Gold for the same prices I'd pay in a store for Pioneer(and that includes shipping too), and I always thought that PG was way better than Pioneer. So, I thought I'd see what other brands there were out there that would compare similarly in $$$ but be better in product. I got a huge list of audio makers from the other website Swez posted for me to check in another post that was totally unrelated to car audio. I recognized a lot of the names I've seen on here like Image Dynamics, Boston Acoustics, and more. I'm gonna start checking them out to see what they are like.
On paper, all speakers with similar descriptions and number ratings might as well be the same. Pioneer numbers look about the same as a lot of the better names I've been told to check out like Infinity for example. Specs aren't that much off. But sound is supposed to be completely different. So if I run across one I haven't heard anything on before, I may ask one of you all if it's better than what I've been used to.
I guess you can tell from my postings that I'm more interested in speakers for mids, midbass, and highs than I am anything else. That's cause I've already got my pick on an HU brand(I like Pioneer), and I think that most amps with good names and ratings will do the job(like Alpine, USAcoustics, Rockford Fosgate). Maybe some better than others, but I just can't see that it would make a huge difference as long as it was a good one. But the speakers on the other hand are the final level it has to go through before I get to hear it.
In my mind, the deck and the amps are just manipulating and exchanging signals and wattages. Even though this is a very important part of it, it's how that speaker responds physically to those wattages that make the sounds I hear though and that could make all the difference if it wasn't as good as it could be, no matter what the signal was(as I've seen with Audiobahn). I want it to be as good as possible, but not break me up either. I can't afford to go extreme in speakers, or I wouldn't have but one pair for all the systems I'm working on.
uochronos on 02/6/2005 18:31:31
yes you got the idea most high end amps have slightly differnt designs but they well all get you a good quality signal..
as for phoenix gold speakers i love PG i have more respect for there amps then any other company i think... but there coaxil and components just are not up to par with the other Big boys in that field at least in my opinion... CDT, Focal, Diamon, MBquart, alpine all make really great coaxils and components...
Chronos
audeogod on 02/6/2005 22:02:12
I just found a set of Phoenix Gold 6.5 components, the Octane series, on eBay for $85 shipped and insured. Brand new. I know you don't like PG's as well as some others, but wouldn't these be better than a set of Sony 3-way coaxials that I have now?
They are 70wrms, 140wpeak, 90 dB, 60 - 24kHz with an external crossover with a slope of 18 dB/octave. This set has an 11mm mylar tweeter. Woofer has a poly cone that is aluminum coated, and rubber surrounds. I have a Pioneer amp I can run them on, but it's only 35wrms per channel, 70wpeak per channel. Or I can run that on the Kicker 8 that I have, and use my Punch 250a2, if it wouldn't be too strong. It's rated at 62.5wrms per channel, but that might be lite compared to it's actual output.
Any thoughts on how this would sound? I listen to all rock and metal. No rap and no country. No anything else. Only rock. Well, if you count rap/rock as rock anyway. I don't want it to be too harsh on my ears. I'm afraid of aluminum cones for that reason.
uochronos on 02/6/2005 22:38:08
ya they are defiantly better then coaxils.
Chronos
cplkittle on 02/7/2005 00:33:29
This is a tough one to comment on..
All companies make speaker lines from basic entry level to competition, and 99% of the time, you get what you pay for.
Alot of talk of shying away from aluminum cones here.. I was partial to silk in tweeters, but now have found out that it all depends on location and preference. Volume destroys hearing, not harshness. I highly recommend aluminum midrange drivers for their brighter sound. I can't tell a difference in subs, and almost all quality components have adjustable tweeter levels if they sound too harsh.
audeogod on 02/7/2005 08:36:20
Well, I wasn't really meaning that it might destroy my ears. I was concerned with the way it will sound. I know you can't compare a set of PG 6.5 components to a set of SPL coaxial 4x6's......but about 2 years ago, I got a set of the SPL's with aluminum coated cones and they sounded HORRIBLE. I threw them away. The midrange was so harsh it sounded like the speakers were chewing it up before letting me hear it. That's what worries me. I don't want that sound again.
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