For all of my normal knowledge, I can't figure this one out.
My wife and I have the same Polk speakers, except mine are 5-1/4 and hers are 6-1/2, same output from out head units, but I have a BMW and she has a Toyota Tercel. The solid Bimmer makes nice sound and decent bass, but her Tercel is so noisy and floppy that the panels which hold the speakers absorb most of the bass. I'm going to use some MDF and matting to help, but the bottom line is that the sound sucks despite her larger speakers. She likes to hear bass and you just can't hear any in her car.
Her back decks will hold 6-3/4 speakers. I'm afraid (like with so many other tries) that it won't be enough. The back deck currently holds 6-1/2 and they just suck in her car but the 5-1/4s rock in mine. The next step would be some 8" IB subs in the deck, but they would probably sound like junk without an amp.
Its just so frustrating that my two cars (one with 6-1/2 and 6x9s and the other with 5-1/4 all around) sound better than her car with 6-1/2s all the way around.
What do you suggest? I'd like to stay simple and avoid external amps since I know it can be done without it.
Replies (3)
curtis73 on 11/23/2004 14:47:40
By the way, I plan on using some MDF and dynamat to help... will that make the difference?
uochronos on 11/23/2004 14:52:12
dynamting the whole front door well defiantly help... as for the rear a 8" sub well require an amp. powering it off the deck would cuase damage to the sub and not get you the sound you want at all... i suggest dynamating the front door pannels. first see if that improves sound enough before buying more speakers.
also when considering how her car sounds BMW puts effort into making there vehicles acouticaly pleaseing and placing speakers well usualy... where as toyota put alot less effort into it:)
Chronos
swez on 11/23/2004 20:23:48
Agreed, BMW's have a lot of sound dampening materials in the doors, floor etc. The Tercel is pretty much a bare-bones economy car. Dependable and great gas mileage, but not well dampened for acoustics.
Adding sound deading material to front doors should help alot. The more air tight the door is, the better the speakers will sound.
As for better audio in the rear, samething.... a small enclosure for each speaker and some damping materials should help them a lot. Are those factory speakers back there now or Aftermarket upgrades?
I have found that making a small enclosure for the rear deck speakers can make a huge difference in bass and MB performance as opposed to "free air" OEM designs. Not sure how much work room you'll have to deal with, but something as simple as 2 qt tupperware bowel can help alot when a little acoustical stuffing is added. That's one cheap method of enclosure... but there are others to consider too.
Comments?
Swez
My wife and I have the same Polk speakers, except mine are 5-1/4 and hers are 6-1/2, same output from out head units, but I have a BMW and she has a Toyota Tercel. The solid Bimmer makes nice sound and decent bass, but her Tercel is so noisy and floppy that the panels which hold the speakers absorb most of the bass. I'm going to use some MDF and matting to help, but the bottom line is that the sound sucks despite her larger speakers. She likes to hear bass and you just can't hear any in her car.
Her back decks will hold 6-3/4 speakers. I'm afraid (like with so many other tries) that it won't be enough. The back deck currently holds 6-1/2 and they just suck in her car but the 5-1/4s rock in mine. The next step would be some 8" IB subs in the deck, but they would probably sound like junk without an amp.
Its just so frustrating that my two cars (one with 6-1/2 and 6x9s and the other with 5-1/4 all around) sound better than her car with 6-1/2s all the way around.
What do you suggest? I'd like to stay simple and avoid external amps since I know it can be done without it.
Replies (3)
curtis73 on 11/23/2004 14:47:40
By the way, I plan on using some MDF and dynamat to help... will that make the difference?
uochronos on 11/23/2004 14:52:12
dynamting the whole front door well defiantly help... as for the rear a 8" sub well require an amp. powering it off the deck would cuase damage to the sub and not get you the sound you want at all... i suggest dynamating the front door pannels. first see if that improves sound enough before buying more speakers.
also when considering how her car sounds BMW puts effort into making there vehicles acouticaly pleaseing and placing speakers well usualy... where as toyota put alot less effort into it:)
Chronos
swez on 11/23/2004 20:23:48
Agreed, BMW's have a lot of sound dampening materials in the doors, floor etc. The Tercel is pretty much a bare-bones economy car. Dependable and great gas mileage, but not well dampened for acoustics.
Adding sound deading material to front doors should help alot. The more air tight the door is, the better the speakers will sound.
As for better audio in the rear, samething.... a small enclosure for each speaker and some damping materials should help them a lot. Are those factory speakers back there now or Aftermarket upgrades?
I have found that making a small enclosure for the rear deck speakers can make a huge difference in bass and MB performance as opposed to "free air" OEM designs. Not sure how much work room you'll have to deal with, but something as simple as 2 qt tupperware bowel can help alot when a little acoustical stuffing is added. That's one cheap method of enclosure... but there are others to consider too.
Comments?
Swez
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