Do tweeters need time to break in?
I just purchsed a pair of Diamond Audio m661 for my car and I hooked them up for a sec and they sounded very harsh . Should I give them time?
Replies (6)
uochronos on 10/19/2004 22:43:26
do they need to break in? yes like any speaker it takes about a week or 2 of a normal amount of use before they are broken in and many companies suggets not turning them up real loud till after that time.
as for is that why they are harsh... probaly not. diamond audio makes some great gear but some tweeters just sound to harsh to some people. metal dome tweeters like aluminum or titanium are harsh to many people while silk dome tweeters are more calm and natural sounding.
if these are metal dome tweeters then that is probaly why you dont care for them as much. one thing to try is placing them farther from your ear. so it has time to disperse a bit before getting to your ear.
hope this helps
Chronos
PeeJ on 10/19/2004 23:11:02
I had metal domes before. I had focals before and I believe they are metal dome correct? Maybe I just didn't get a chance to listen to them well. I'm actually getting them fully instaleld tommorow.
uochronos on 10/19/2004 23:15:18
most companies have both metal and silf tweeters. focal i know makes both. so i dont know what you had before. also every tweeter and company is going to sound differnt.
Chronos
PeeJ on 10/19/2004 23:20:45
True..well I guess well see once we get these damn things in. Diamond is a pretty good brand, yeah? I wanted something new and the 661 seemed pretty good..
asplundher on 10/20/2004 00:11:09
Never heard of tweeters breaking in but, if they sound harsh, chances are that your probably a silk person.
Silk domes are not nearly as harsh as metal domes and most audiophiles choose them for that purpose. Metal domes usually exhibit extended upper frequency response that can sound exaggerated and harsh with music material that is already bright.
A lot of designs contain rubber or special coatings to the metal dome and/or surround to help diminish some of the harshness. Yet when compared to silk, there's no comparison to their smooth airyness.
swez on 10/20/2004 09:02:57
Ditto... Metal dome tweeters are generally brighter (almost harsh) to some that prefer soft domes. (silk or cloth domes)
If these new tweeters are too bright or over powering when installed, one can either back off on the EQ in the 15Khz and up range or add an attenuator circuits (Zobel network or L-pads) to tone them down.
When installing them, avoid on-axis aiming. (firing them at your head)This will help reduce beaming effects common to some tweeters. Off axis aiming of 15-30 degrees (up or back) should help a lot.
Good luck and keep us posted on results.
Swez
PS Break in factor on tweeters? I dunno. Probably not a bad idea in high SPL applications. But if nominal power is 30 watts or less, don't think break in is a real factorhere, or very short period at most. The diaphrams are very small and reproduce only high frequencies. (1.5Khz and up) Not much mechanical movement in a tweeter design to be concerned with.
I just purchsed a pair of Diamond Audio m661 for my car and I hooked them up for a sec and they sounded very harsh . Should I give them time?
Replies (6)
uochronos on 10/19/2004 22:43:26
do they need to break in? yes like any speaker it takes about a week or 2 of a normal amount of use before they are broken in and many companies suggets not turning them up real loud till after that time.
as for is that why they are harsh... probaly not. diamond audio makes some great gear but some tweeters just sound to harsh to some people. metal dome tweeters like aluminum or titanium are harsh to many people while silk dome tweeters are more calm and natural sounding.
if these are metal dome tweeters then that is probaly why you dont care for them as much. one thing to try is placing them farther from your ear. so it has time to disperse a bit before getting to your ear.
hope this helps
Chronos
PeeJ on 10/19/2004 23:11:02
I had metal domes before. I had focals before and I believe they are metal dome correct? Maybe I just didn't get a chance to listen to them well. I'm actually getting them fully instaleld tommorow.
uochronos on 10/19/2004 23:15:18
most companies have both metal and silf tweeters. focal i know makes both. so i dont know what you had before. also every tweeter and company is going to sound differnt.
Chronos
PeeJ on 10/19/2004 23:20:45
True..well I guess well see once we get these damn things in. Diamond is a pretty good brand, yeah? I wanted something new and the 661 seemed pretty good..
asplundher on 10/20/2004 00:11:09
Never heard of tweeters breaking in but, if they sound harsh, chances are that your probably a silk person.
Silk domes are not nearly as harsh as metal domes and most audiophiles choose them for that purpose. Metal domes usually exhibit extended upper frequency response that can sound exaggerated and harsh with music material that is already bright.
A lot of designs contain rubber or special coatings to the metal dome and/or surround to help diminish some of the harshness. Yet when compared to silk, there's no comparison to their smooth airyness.
swez on 10/20/2004 09:02:57
Ditto... Metal dome tweeters are generally brighter (almost harsh) to some that prefer soft domes. (silk or cloth domes)
If these new tweeters are too bright or over powering when installed, one can either back off on the EQ in the 15Khz and up range or add an attenuator circuits (Zobel network or L-pads) to tone them down.
When installing them, avoid on-axis aiming. (firing them at your head)This will help reduce beaming effects common to some tweeters. Off axis aiming of 15-30 degrees (up or back) should help a lot.
Good luck and keep us posted on results.
Swez
PS Break in factor on tweeters? I dunno. Probably not a bad idea in high SPL applications. But if nominal power is 30 watts or less, don't think break in is a real factorhere, or very short period at most. The diaphrams are very small and reproduce only high frequencies. (1.5Khz and up) Not much mechanical movement in a tweeter design to be concerned with.
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