Hello gents,
I have a small dilemma here. I am looking at the Alpine pxa-h700, or h701 which is the 2004 edition. (www.alpine-usa.com) This has 2 sets of front outs, 2 rear outs, 1 sub mono out, and 1 center channel out. Now should I spend $200 more on a DSP such as this or just get a good Xover with a center channel output?
All I am really gaining with the DSP is the digitally configured center channel with the dolby 5.1 features. A crossover will just give me the front left + and the front right + combo that makes up the manually configured center channel that most DIYers have.
Also, I was thinking about using 2 center channel speakers, one in the dash, and one directly behind the front seats in the center of the vehicle. I know this will be a mono setup as far as fade goes, but I have never seen this done. Any suggestions on this? ttocs? just wondering if anyone has seen or heard this before.
I am turning my Kia into a Diamond / Alpine show vehicle. I will have 4 TDX 12s, 1 pair 5.25 components for the front, 1 pair 6.5 components for the rear, and either a pair of 4" or 5.25" center channel speakers. I am removing the back seat, so the box / display will extend from the back hatch to the back of the front seats. Maybe this will give you a better idea of the setup for the questions I have.
Replies (4)
ttocs on 07/10/2004 20:27:18
that is a tough one. I know if I didn't have the dsp I would want it later. If it is for a show car then I would say to do it. as for the rear center channel, I would make some way defeatable otherwise it will throw the front stage off. good choice on the diamonds, one of my favorites. I have not messed with the tdx yet, yet........
cplkittle on 07/10/2004 20:48:36
I am leaning towards the DSP.. I have the CDA 9835 with the Ai-Net jack in the back, which is what the pxa-h700 operates on; but in the manual for the HU, It says the Ai-Net jack is for CD / DVD changers. I am going to call Alpine monday and find out if my HU will controll all of the available functions of the DSP, or if it is minimal. The DSP can be used with any HU through RCAs, but not all functions can be accessed this way. The only recommended HUs are the $2500 F1 series Alpine units.
Diamond products grabbed me when a friend bought two of their entry level 10's (CM3's). I went to the shop, where I now work, with him and watched a 6.5 component midbass driver pound out notes in the low 40's when connected directly to a 1200.1 amp (it was a 4 ohm driver so it was only seeing 300w), but it handled it like it was hungry for more.
swez on 07/10/2004 22:03:26
Cannot say much to help on the center channel details mentioned. Personally, I would think it to be good in a HT application where we have some distance between the RF/LF; RR/LR and center channels.
In a car... not much room for ambient voids to be filled by the center channel mentioned. Some upscale OEM's have that feature, but cannot say I really liked what I heard from them. Part of it was the speakers. But much of it I think, is just lack of distance between channels.
DSP is a very good choice. A lot of extra features and gizzmos to play with if you are a "Mr. Gadget" kinda guy. But with some time and experimentation... you will love what DSP processing can do. Time aligments, delay line groupings, customized Parametric EQ features, some even have RTA setup features and a calibrated mike.
Swez
ttocs on 07/11/2004 19:00:35
clarion makes a neat half din pwrd center channel that could fit under your hu, I think.......
I have a small dilemma here. I am looking at the Alpine pxa-h700, or h701 which is the 2004 edition. (www.alpine-usa.com) This has 2 sets of front outs, 2 rear outs, 1 sub mono out, and 1 center channel out. Now should I spend $200 more on a DSP such as this or just get a good Xover with a center channel output?
All I am really gaining with the DSP is the digitally configured center channel with the dolby 5.1 features. A crossover will just give me the front left + and the front right + combo that makes up the manually configured center channel that most DIYers have.
Also, I was thinking about using 2 center channel speakers, one in the dash, and one directly behind the front seats in the center of the vehicle. I know this will be a mono setup as far as fade goes, but I have never seen this done. Any suggestions on this? ttocs? just wondering if anyone has seen or heard this before.
I am turning my Kia into a Diamond / Alpine show vehicle. I will have 4 TDX 12s, 1 pair 5.25 components for the front, 1 pair 6.5 components for the rear, and either a pair of 4" or 5.25" center channel speakers. I am removing the back seat, so the box / display will extend from the back hatch to the back of the front seats. Maybe this will give you a better idea of the setup for the questions I have.
Replies (4)
ttocs on 07/10/2004 20:27:18
that is a tough one. I know if I didn't have the dsp I would want it later. If it is for a show car then I would say to do it. as for the rear center channel, I would make some way defeatable otherwise it will throw the front stage off. good choice on the diamonds, one of my favorites. I have not messed with the tdx yet, yet........
cplkittle on 07/10/2004 20:48:36
I am leaning towards the DSP.. I have the CDA 9835 with the Ai-Net jack in the back, which is what the pxa-h700 operates on; but in the manual for the HU, It says the Ai-Net jack is for CD / DVD changers. I am going to call Alpine monday and find out if my HU will controll all of the available functions of the DSP, or if it is minimal. The DSP can be used with any HU through RCAs, but not all functions can be accessed this way. The only recommended HUs are the $2500 F1 series Alpine units.
Diamond products grabbed me when a friend bought two of their entry level 10's (CM3's). I went to the shop, where I now work, with him and watched a 6.5 component midbass driver pound out notes in the low 40's when connected directly to a 1200.1 amp (it was a 4 ohm driver so it was only seeing 300w), but it handled it like it was hungry for more.
swez on 07/10/2004 22:03:26
Cannot say much to help on the center channel details mentioned. Personally, I would think it to be good in a HT application where we have some distance between the RF/LF; RR/LR and center channels.
In a car... not much room for ambient voids to be filled by the center channel mentioned. Some upscale OEM's have that feature, but cannot say I really liked what I heard from them. Part of it was the speakers. But much of it I think, is just lack of distance between channels.
DSP is a very good choice. A lot of extra features and gizzmos to play with if you are a "Mr. Gadget" kinda guy. But with some time and experimentation... you will love what DSP processing can do. Time aligments, delay line groupings, customized Parametric EQ features, some even have RTA setup features and a calibrated mike.
Swez
ttocs on 07/11/2004 19:00:35
clarion makes a neat half din pwrd center channel that could fit under your hu, I think.......
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