Hey i just bought pioneer GM-X322 200w 2 channel amp and 2 10" 350w subs. Will this be enough to power them? It got it as a combo and i'm wondering why the amp is only 200watts... And what kind of installation kit for the amp should i get? I don't know what gauges are.. :(
Replies (3)
uochronos on 06/24/2004 00:19:58
this amp is only 80watts rms at 1 channel at 4 ohm or 50watts per channel at 2 ohms stereo. this is not enough to properly power a sub that is 350watts rms let alone 2 of them. even if the 350watts is maximum power that still 175watts rms per sub and 50 watts is less then half that. you well end up cliping these subs at that low of power and if not very carefull well most likly end up damageing them.
More info on sub models and brand well help us help you.
Sabinash on 06/24/2004 00:28:37
The brand is Pioneer on the subs. I don't know the sub model cause i got it off ebay. Here is the site http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5705216637&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1 Does this mean i'll need to buy a new amp?
swez on 06/24/2004 12:27:12
Depending on the subs you have here, this amp can be bridged to MONO (a 1 channel amp) and power 1 sub adequately. If you bridge this amp, you'll get ~80 Watts RMS with a 4 ohm sub.
WARNING: DO NOT RUN THIS AMP "MONO" IF YOU USE BOTH SUBS OR YOU MAY FRY THE AMP.
Amp Specs & Features:
Specifications:
Continuous Power (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD)
2 ch: (4 Ohm) 35Wx2
2 ch: (2 Ohm) 50Wx2
1 ch: (4 Ohm) 80Wx1 (this is bridged power at 4 ohms)
Maximum Power (EIAJ)
2 ch: (4 Ohm) 70Wx2
1 ch: (4 Ohm) 160Wx1
Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz (0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.004% (1kHz, 4 Ohm)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 105dB (IHF-A Weighted, at 1kHz)
Dimensions: 8-1/8" x 2" x 6-7/8"
Features:
Bridgeable 1/2/3 Channel Capability
High-Current 2 Ohm Operation
PWM MOSFET Power Supply
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
Screw-Type Power/Ground Terminals
Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
RCA Inputs
Hi-Volt Input Level Control (400mV-4V)
Speaker Level Inputs
Selectable Crossover: 80Hz, -18dB/oct. (LPF) or 80Hz, -12dB/oct. (HPF)
Bass Boost (60Hz, 0 to +12dB)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,
,2076_4055_34466_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ProductDetailComponent
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The price is low and if we can figure out what subs are actually used here, (model #) you may wish to get a 2nd amp of same kind and run the other sub with it. This is a low cost amp, so a 2nd amp will not break your "piggy bank".
The subs: Cannot find out much on these subs shown. When you get them, carefull pull one sub out and have a look at the magnet. It may have a model number stamped or stickered onto it. If we know which model you have, then we can suggest some additional options. If no model number is noted, an ohm meter connected to 1 sub will tell us what ohmic value the sub has. If you don't have an ohmeter, see if you can borrow one from a buddy and have them read the resistance number off each sub. That will be enough detail for us to guide you into wiring options.
This is probably an older sub model. (3-4 years old) and very low power too. I would questimate this one to be a 4 ohm, single voice coil model with about 100-125 watts continous power handling. (RMS) Please advice what you can when you carefully remove one sub from the enclosure. Go slow and try not to punch a hole in the cone with a screw driver or drill gun.
Swez
PS Since you know the amp model number already, go to Pioneer web site for a manual on this amp. They are usually free to DL and copy in Adobe. Print a copy and hang on to it for install and other details.
The Pioneer site does not archive this manual, but you can DL a copy of the GM-X362 as it is similar in function and application to your model.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/manual/0,
,2076_4277,00.html [ manual for .pdf manual on GM-X362]
Replies (3)
uochronos on 06/24/2004 00:19:58
this amp is only 80watts rms at 1 channel at 4 ohm or 50watts per channel at 2 ohms stereo. this is not enough to properly power a sub that is 350watts rms let alone 2 of them. even if the 350watts is maximum power that still 175watts rms per sub and 50 watts is less then half that. you well end up cliping these subs at that low of power and if not very carefull well most likly end up damageing them.
More info on sub models and brand well help us help you.
Sabinash on 06/24/2004 00:28:37
The brand is Pioneer on the subs. I don't know the sub model cause i got it off ebay. Here is the site http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5705216637&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1 Does this mean i'll need to buy a new amp?
swez on 06/24/2004 12:27:12
Depending on the subs you have here, this amp can be bridged to MONO (a 1 channel amp) and power 1 sub adequately. If you bridge this amp, you'll get ~80 Watts RMS with a 4 ohm sub.
WARNING: DO NOT RUN THIS AMP "MONO" IF YOU USE BOTH SUBS OR YOU MAY FRY THE AMP.
Amp Specs & Features:
Specifications:
Continuous Power (20Hz-20kHz, 0.08% THD)
2 ch: (4 Ohm) 35Wx2
2 ch: (2 Ohm) 50Wx2
1 ch: (4 Ohm) 80Wx1 (this is bridged power at 4 ohms)
Maximum Power (EIAJ)
2 ch: (4 Ohm) 70Wx2
1 ch: (4 Ohm) 160Wx1
Frequency Response: 10Hz - 50kHz (0,-1dB)
Total Harmonic Distortion: 0.004% (1kHz, 4 Ohm)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio: 105dB (IHF-A Weighted, at 1kHz)
Dimensions: 8-1/8" x 2" x 6-7/8"
Features:
Bridgeable 1/2/3 Channel Capability
High-Current 2 Ohm Operation
PWM MOSFET Power Supply
Balanced Isolator Input Circuit
Screw-Type Power/Ground Terminals
Screw-Type Speaker Terminals
RCA Inputs
Hi-Volt Input Level Control (400mV-4V)
Speaker Level Inputs
Selectable Crossover: 80Hz, -18dB/oct. (LPF) or 80Hz, -12dB/oct. (HPF)
Bass Boost (60Hz, 0 to +12dB)
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/detail/0,
,2076_4055_34466_tab=B,00.html?compName=PNA_ProductDetailComponent
===================================================
The price is low and if we can figure out what subs are actually used here, (model #) you may wish to get a 2nd amp of same kind and run the other sub with it. This is a low cost amp, so a 2nd amp will not break your "piggy bank".
The subs: Cannot find out much on these subs shown. When you get them, carefull pull one sub out and have a look at the magnet. It may have a model number stamped or stickered onto it. If we know which model you have, then we can suggest some additional options. If no model number is noted, an ohm meter connected to 1 sub will tell us what ohmic value the sub has. If you don't have an ohmeter, see if you can borrow one from a buddy and have them read the resistance number off each sub. That will be enough detail for us to guide you into wiring options.
This is probably an older sub model. (3-4 years old) and very low power too. I would questimate this one to be a 4 ohm, single voice coil model with about 100-125 watts continous power handling. (RMS) Please advice what you can when you carefully remove one sub from the enclosure. Go slow and try not to punch a hole in the cone with a screw driver or drill gun.
Swez
PS Since you know the amp model number already, go to Pioneer web site for a manual on this amp. They are usually free to DL and copy in Adobe. Print a copy and hang on to it for install and other details.
The Pioneer site does not archive this manual, but you can DL a copy of the GM-X362 as it is similar in function and application to your model.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/product/manual/0,
,2076_4277,00.html [ manual for .pdf manual on GM-X362]
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