hey guys i need some help, i have a friend at work who wants to invest in a system for his 91 mustang gt hatchback. he needs rear speakers front speakers and a head unit. he definitly wants an alpine head unit no exceptions. his price range is 500 for the speakers and the HU. hes looking for quality gear that will last him for many years to come. hes lookin fo crystal clear sound. as well as somthing that will get loud. components in the front and i think its either 6x8s or 6x9s in the rear. thanx for the help. quick responses would be appreciated.
Replies (7)
compvr15s on 05/6/2004 16:33:18
for the speakers do you think it would be a good idea to run a set of 6.5 cdt comps in the front and then just a cdt midbass/midrange in the rear? that should sound really clear and loud. he said he likes more mids than highs, he likes loud vocals. think for now he is going to run the speakers off of the HU or maybe the fronts off of an amp he has and the rears off of the HU. or what would be a good setup
swez on 05/6/2004 17:41:28
Alpine has a few HO units that put out ~27 RMS x 4. That's better than stock units that do ~15 watts x 4.
CDT Comps or MA Audio has a nice set of Comps for ~$80.00 off Zeb as well. He will definitely want good tweeters as this is what brings up the vocals.
http://www.thezeb.com/ (main page)
The Comps really do need to amped to get the best performance from them. The rear speakers can be amped or run off the HU amps. A 6.5" coaxial may well fit in the rear with some minor mods.
HU:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-P2xY7CyBqVv/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=62700&I=500CDA9833&o=p&a=0&cc=01&avf=N&search=Alpine+Radios
Crutch is a bit high on their prices for HU's from Alpine. But some careful shopping can chop that price a bit.
Alpine CDA-9833
CD/MP3/WMA receiver with CD changer controls $450.00
Key Features:
detachable, fold-down face
variable button color
plays MP3 and WMA files
plays audio CDs, CD-Rs and CD-RWs
MaxTune SQ tuner
12 FM/6 AM presets
Bass Engine Pro (5-band parametric EQ, 6-channel digital time correction, 6-position crossover with variable slope, plus subwoofer phase and level controls)
MediaXpander (restores clarity and detail to compressed or broadcast audio)
source tone memory
iPersonalize setup options
XM Satellite Radio controls (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal.) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls for Alpine Ai-NET changers only
optional auxiliary input
4-volt front, rear and subwoofer preamp outputs
V-Drive hybrid MOSFET60 internal amp — high-current draw requires direct fused connection to your battery
clock
wireless remote
26 watts RMS/60 peak x 4 channels (CEA-2006 Compliant)
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 105 dB
FM sensitivity 9.3 dBf
warranty: 1 year
Swez
compvr15s on 05/6/2004 18:26:17
he dont need somthing that good. just somthing that has moderate options. i think he wants a mp3 player and one with either green or blue lights no red. other than that he wont know how to use the rest of the stuff. i was thinking maybe the 9827 or9830. as for comps would the cl-61s be a good choice the discolored model? and for the tweets should i get the silk dome or the other ones. what would be a good 4 channel amp that could run the 2 fronts and then use the rear bridged for a sub. with maybe 50 watts rms@4omhs. it can go over 500 but he would like the stuff as cheap as possible. what brand of coaxial would you recommend for the back, im pretty sure it will fit 6x9 but i think slot is 6x8 thanx swez
cplkittle on 05/6/2004 22:46:12
Why not just go with all Alpine?
their type S series coax speakers run from $99-$129 (all sizes)
and the 9827 HU is only around $199 retail.
They type S series speakers are around 40w RMS and can handle up to 200w. A perfect choice for now, plus leaving the option open to add an amplifier later without having to upgrade mids/highs.
The one thing I like about Alpine is that even their cheapest HU has 3 pair of RCA outs and a cooling fan on the HU. That is saying alot for the company....no shortcuts on quality.
With the $200 HU, and $200-$240 on the speakers, I am sure he could talk anyone down to $500 even for everything installed.
swez on 05/7/2004 10:54:20
Good input Kit... only buy what he thinks he will use or need.
The CDT CL-61a are the deep discount Comps at Zeb. The paint color was off, so CDT is blowing them out.
About adding a 4 channel... yes it will work in Tri-mode. Meaning, front Comps are full range off channels 1 & 2. The rear channels can be bridged for sub applications. The main thing, when you bridge the amp this way, must use a 4 ohm sub load. The rear speakers can be run off the rear channel HU amps.
As for choices on rear speakers... if using the HU only to power them, no need to go crazy on high powered speakers. Can use full range Coaxials or midbass drivers only. A personal choice based on hi preferences.
Finally, many prefer silk or soft dome tweeters for smooth, natural sound. Metal domes can be a bit bright or harsh and sound very un-natural. But for rock and high energy music, metal dome tweets will cut through the bass well.
Swez
ttocs on 05/7/2004 16:17:43
if you want a high quality alpine HU for a descent price, I know a guy selling a 7949. This was their flagship model a few years back and is still a great deck. It doesn't do mp3's, but is a great sq deck. You would need a seperate amp however, it is a dead head.......
Do you have the speakers in the dash and the doors?
compvr15s on 05/7/2004 21:53:05
im not sure, i thought all of them mustangs has dash/door/rear speakers.. he is going to go looking and listening to some speakers and HUs this weekend, i told him to pick a few that he likes then ill see what kinda prices i can get him for them things off the net. probably 50% less than retail stores. thanx for all the input, any other suggestions or comments would be great as well.
Replies (7)
compvr15s on 05/6/2004 16:33:18
for the speakers do you think it would be a good idea to run a set of 6.5 cdt comps in the front and then just a cdt midbass/midrange in the rear? that should sound really clear and loud. he said he likes more mids than highs, he likes loud vocals. think for now he is going to run the speakers off of the HU or maybe the fronts off of an amp he has and the rears off of the HU. or what would be a good setup
swez on 05/6/2004 17:41:28
Alpine has a few HO units that put out ~27 RMS x 4. That's better than stock units that do ~15 watts x 4.
CDT Comps or MA Audio has a nice set of Comps for ~$80.00 off Zeb as well. He will definitely want good tweeters as this is what brings up the vocals.
http://www.thezeb.com/ (main page)
The Comps really do need to amped to get the best performance from them. The rear speakers can be amped or run off the HU amps. A 6.5" coaxial may well fit in the rear with some minor mods.
HU:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-P2xY7CyBqVv/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?s=0&c=3&g=62700&I=500CDA9833&o=p&a=0&cc=01&avf=N&search=Alpine+Radios
Crutch is a bit high on their prices for HU's from Alpine. But some careful shopping can chop that price a bit.
Alpine CDA-9833
CD/MP3/WMA receiver with CD changer controls $450.00
Key Features:
detachable, fold-down face
variable button color
plays MP3 and WMA files
plays audio CDs, CD-Rs and CD-RWs
MaxTune SQ tuner
12 FM/6 AM presets
Bass Engine Pro (5-band parametric EQ, 6-channel digital time correction, 6-position crossover with variable slope, plus subwoofer phase and level controls)
MediaXpander (restores clarity and detail to compressed or broadcast audio)
source tone memory
iPersonalize setup options
XM Satellite Radio controls (XM Radio subscription, tuner, antenna required to receive the satellite radio signal.) — service is available only in the lower 48 states, not available in Alaska, Hawaii, or U.S. territories
CD changer controls for Alpine Ai-NET changers only
optional auxiliary input
4-volt front, rear and subwoofer preamp outputs
V-Drive hybrid MOSFET60 internal amp — high-current draw requires direct fused connection to your battery
clock
wireless remote
26 watts RMS/60 peak x 4 channels (CEA-2006 Compliant)
CD frequency response 5-20,000 Hz
CD signal-to-noise ratio 105 dB
FM sensitivity 9.3 dBf
warranty: 1 year
Swez
compvr15s on 05/6/2004 18:26:17
he dont need somthing that good. just somthing that has moderate options. i think he wants a mp3 player and one with either green or blue lights no red. other than that he wont know how to use the rest of the stuff. i was thinking maybe the 9827 or9830. as for comps would the cl-61s be a good choice the discolored model? and for the tweets should i get the silk dome or the other ones. what would be a good 4 channel amp that could run the 2 fronts and then use the rear bridged for a sub. with maybe 50 watts rms@4omhs. it can go over 500 but he would like the stuff as cheap as possible. what brand of coaxial would you recommend for the back, im pretty sure it will fit 6x9 but i think slot is 6x8 thanx swez
cplkittle on 05/6/2004 22:46:12
Why not just go with all Alpine?
their type S series coax speakers run from $99-$129 (all sizes)
and the 9827 HU is only around $199 retail.
They type S series speakers are around 40w RMS and can handle up to 200w. A perfect choice for now, plus leaving the option open to add an amplifier later without having to upgrade mids/highs.
The one thing I like about Alpine is that even their cheapest HU has 3 pair of RCA outs and a cooling fan on the HU. That is saying alot for the company....no shortcuts on quality.
With the $200 HU, and $200-$240 on the speakers, I am sure he could talk anyone down to $500 even for everything installed.
swez on 05/7/2004 10:54:20
Good input Kit... only buy what he thinks he will use or need.
The CDT CL-61a are the deep discount Comps at Zeb. The paint color was off, so CDT is blowing them out.
About adding a 4 channel... yes it will work in Tri-mode. Meaning, front Comps are full range off channels 1 & 2. The rear channels can be bridged for sub applications. The main thing, when you bridge the amp this way, must use a 4 ohm sub load. The rear speakers can be run off the rear channel HU amps.
As for choices on rear speakers... if using the HU only to power them, no need to go crazy on high powered speakers. Can use full range Coaxials or midbass drivers only. A personal choice based on hi preferences.
Finally, many prefer silk or soft dome tweeters for smooth, natural sound. Metal domes can be a bit bright or harsh and sound very un-natural. But for rock and high energy music, metal dome tweets will cut through the bass well.
Swez
ttocs on 05/7/2004 16:17:43
if you want a high quality alpine HU for a descent price, I know a guy selling a 7949. This was their flagship model a few years back and is still a great deck. It doesn't do mp3's, but is a great sq deck. You would need a seperate amp however, it is a dead head.......
Do you have the speakers in the dash and the doors?
compvr15s on 05/7/2004 21:53:05
im not sure, i thought all of them mustangs has dash/door/rear speakers.. he is going to go looking and listening to some speakers and HUs this weekend, i told him to pick a few that he likes then ill see what kinda prices i can get him for them things off the net. probably 50% less than retail stores. thanx for all the input, any other suggestions or comments would be great as well.
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