I think I have the basic's of the two but I know there is much much more. Component speaker consist of speaker set ups with more than one part and a crossover? 2-way/3-way speakers consist of speaker with 2 or 3 cones to reach higher frequencies? I hope that is some what right. But which is better? And what's the difference?
Might be a good Idea for an article..(hoping I'm not the only dumb one)
Replies (9)
swez on 04/8/2004 08:57:37
Not a dumb question at all... thanks for bringing it up.
As most know, Component Speaker sets typically consist of a midbass driver and tweeter, matched to a crossover that blends the best from each speaker for a natural and accurate sounding system.
A 2nd level of Comp is the 3-way Midbass, Midrange and tweeter style system. A bit more complex to install, cost is higher, but sound quality is usually very good to excellent, depending on install methods.
Then, there are the Coaxial family of speakers. They combine and integrate full range elements into a single package. These are generally cheaper than Comps and do not have the sophistication levels of a good Comp system. Also, the quality & size of the drivers used in multi-element speakers is inferior due to materials used, size limits and low grade crossovers. (usually a simple cap filter)
Also, the use of quality Coaxials in front are a good option. The better coaxial designs (midrange & tweeter) are integrated into one package and some have quality external crossovers to get the most from them. If the tweeter can be aimed to at a targeted listening point... all the better.
Personally, what we choose is based on install space, budget, and level of sound quality we wish to achieve. A good 3-way system for car audio makes sense in a larger vehicle. Installing the midrange and tweets in front stage, midbass in rear doors or panels can sound great and well balanced. Add a sub and viola... you have it all. A true 4-way full range system.
From experience, I have opted for the approach that less... is more. Simplicity of install, quality componets, adequate amping power and maybe some EQ (to flatten out peaks and dips) will give excellent results.
Multi-element speakers (tri or quad speakers) are not my cup of tea anymore. Colorations and too many compromises net poor audio band performance. Ever seen a concert with triaxials 6x9 speakers filling a pile of boxes? Do recording studios have 5x7" coaxial drivers in their main mix monitors? Nope... OK, the point is obvious... if you want concert/studio grade sound in your ride, takes some careful planning and buying quality gear.
However, if all that is desired, is a loud noise maker to shake up the neighborhood... get a big amp for subs, throw in a few speakers of your choice and go out and annoy the hood. That's a no brainer... as you'll probably get noise violation tickets, piss off your neighbors and have some midnight visitors come knocking out your windows and punch out the trunk lock and all your gear will be gone in the morning. (much to the relief of your neighbors) CLAP
Well, I guess you know where my preferences are by now... Clean SQ and a well balanced system. If I want it loud at times... it's all there.... at the tweak of a knob. A system that is capable of producing a clean, full range (30 - 18,000 Hz) and balanced, 110-115 dB is plenty in a confined space. The system is for my enjoyment only. Don't need everybody to hear me coming down the block and am not trying to impress anyone. Just enjoying what sounds good to me.
Comments?
Swez
PS Yes, I am an audiophile/purist.... AKA Audio Snob, but still like to make it loud too. Nothing wrong with a high dB bass engine if you are into DB Drags and such... but that gets pretty expensive. If some take that route, we can help out to some degree. But many here, are not SPL or BASS HEADS.
ttocs on 04/8/2004 23:14:46
I own 3 ways, nuff said...
swez on 04/9/2004 10:04:44
Comps or Coaxials there ttocs?
Noid on 04/9/2004 11:46:27
Great response... I definately got the answers I was looking for. Now it's just a question of which is the best/worse speakers.
I'm looking for a set of 6x9's and 5 1/4 Components for the front. Budget is looking to be around $140 or $70 a set.
uochronos on 04/9/2004 14:15:18
for the components right now the cdt cl-61a's dfor 149.99 from thezeb.com are probaly the best ones i can think of for the money. as for 6x9's i dont know i havent bought any for a long time so someone else well have to help you there. i would think a pair of good set of 6x9's for rear fill would be under 80$
swez on 04/9/2004 21:32:41
Infinity or Alpine make some pretty good speakers for not a ton of cash. The CDT's mentioned by Chronos are very good and those who have bought them on this site, have very good things to say of same.
You may have to look things over very closely to see if/how you can fit a 6.5" driver in a 5/4" factory mount. Often times, an adapter can be made to allow for a quiality fit.
Swez
ttocs on 04/10/2004 10:42:09
componants.
diamond audio 3 way hex....
zInal3 on 04/10/2004 12:26:17
Is the "AVI" 3 way any good ?
The speaker just came here 3 days ago and the shop owner claims that it has better SQL than the Alpines..
Whats the Verdict ?
swez on 04/11/2004 09:51:07
Listen to them against whatever else he has and judge for yourself. In a demo wall, even a cheap speaker can sound good with enough power and a decent enclosure. How it may sound in ones car after install, can be totally different.
Swez
Might be a good Idea for an article..(hoping I'm not the only dumb one)
Replies (9)
swez on 04/8/2004 08:57:37
Not a dumb question at all... thanks for bringing it up.
As most know, Component Speaker sets typically consist of a midbass driver and tweeter, matched to a crossover that blends the best from each speaker for a natural and accurate sounding system.
A 2nd level of Comp is the 3-way Midbass, Midrange and tweeter style system. A bit more complex to install, cost is higher, but sound quality is usually very good to excellent, depending on install methods.
Then, there are the Coaxial family of speakers. They combine and integrate full range elements into a single package. These are generally cheaper than Comps and do not have the sophistication levels of a good Comp system. Also, the quality & size of the drivers used in multi-element speakers is inferior due to materials used, size limits and low grade crossovers. (usually a simple cap filter)
Also, the use of quality Coaxials in front are a good option. The better coaxial designs (midrange & tweeter) are integrated into one package and some have quality external crossovers to get the most from them. If the tweeter can be aimed to at a targeted listening point... all the better.
Personally, what we choose is based on install space, budget, and level of sound quality we wish to achieve. A good 3-way system for car audio makes sense in a larger vehicle. Installing the midrange and tweets in front stage, midbass in rear doors or panels can sound great and well balanced. Add a sub and viola... you have it all. A true 4-way full range system.
From experience, I have opted for the approach that less... is more. Simplicity of install, quality componets, adequate amping power and maybe some EQ (to flatten out peaks and dips) will give excellent results.
Multi-element speakers (tri or quad speakers) are not my cup of tea anymore. Colorations and too many compromises net poor audio band performance. Ever seen a concert with triaxials 6x9 speakers filling a pile of boxes? Do recording studios have 5x7" coaxial drivers in their main mix monitors? Nope... OK, the point is obvious... if you want concert/studio grade sound in your ride, takes some careful planning and buying quality gear.
However, if all that is desired, is a loud noise maker to shake up the neighborhood... get a big amp for subs, throw in a few speakers of your choice and go out and annoy the hood. That's a no brainer... as you'll probably get noise violation tickets, piss off your neighbors and have some midnight visitors come knocking out your windows and punch out the trunk lock and all your gear will be gone in the morning. (much to the relief of your neighbors) CLAP
Well, I guess you know where my preferences are by now... Clean SQ and a well balanced system. If I want it loud at times... it's all there.... at the tweak of a knob. A system that is capable of producing a clean, full range (30 - 18,000 Hz) and balanced, 110-115 dB is plenty in a confined space. The system is for my enjoyment only. Don't need everybody to hear me coming down the block and am not trying to impress anyone. Just enjoying what sounds good to me.
Comments?
Swez
PS Yes, I am an audiophile/purist.... AKA Audio Snob, but still like to make it loud too. Nothing wrong with a high dB bass engine if you are into DB Drags and such... but that gets pretty expensive. If some take that route, we can help out to some degree. But many here, are not SPL or BASS HEADS.
ttocs on 04/8/2004 23:14:46
I own 3 ways, nuff said...
swez on 04/9/2004 10:04:44
Comps or Coaxials there ttocs?
Noid on 04/9/2004 11:46:27
Great response... I definately got the answers I was looking for. Now it's just a question of which is the best/worse speakers.
I'm looking for a set of 6x9's and 5 1/4 Components for the front. Budget is looking to be around $140 or $70 a set.
uochronos on 04/9/2004 14:15:18
for the components right now the cdt cl-61a's dfor 149.99 from thezeb.com are probaly the best ones i can think of for the money. as for 6x9's i dont know i havent bought any for a long time so someone else well have to help you there. i would think a pair of good set of 6x9's for rear fill would be under 80$
swez on 04/9/2004 21:32:41
Infinity or Alpine make some pretty good speakers for not a ton of cash. The CDT's mentioned by Chronos are very good and those who have bought them on this site, have very good things to say of same.
You may have to look things over very closely to see if/how you can fit a 6.5" driver in a 5/4" factory mount. Often times, an adapter can be made to allow for a quiality fit.
Swez
ttocs on 04/10/2004 10:42:09
componants.
diamond audio 3 way hex....
zInal3 on 04/10/2004 12:26:17
Is the "AVI" 3 way any good ?
The speaker just came here 3 days ago and the shop owner claims that it has better SQL than the Alpines..
Whats the Verdict ?
swez on 04/11/2004 09:51:07
Listen to them against whatever else he has and judge for yourself. In a demo wall, even a cheap speaker can sound good with enough power and a decent enclosure. How it may sound in ones car after install, can be totally different.
Swez
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