as it is with the car audio hobby i have barly brok my cdt components in hd-62cf compnents. and i'm thinking of moving those to the back and getting a pari of es-520 or es-530's for the front they have them on sale for 499.... the question is well i hear that amazing of a differnce with these speakers or am i chipping in 500$ to get a little bit of a differnce.
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uochronos on 04/8/2004 02:34:04
no one on this? even just looking at the differnce in specs and makling an educated guess on what the sq differnce would be would be nice.
swez on 04/8/2004 07:53:17
Well, I have looked at this one earlier and did not know what to tell you then. I can say this in all confidence...
Put your best driver set in the front stage. This is what you will hear the most from the driver seat. The rear speakers are more or less, filling the rear cabin with additional audio content.
Some prefer full range audio in back, while others prefer only midbass/midrange. The subs fill in the last 1.5 octaves not well covered by the interior speakers.
Amping the interior speakers adequately, will produce clean SPL and get the full potential from a quality set of Components or coaxials.
Then it's just a matter of getting the bass engine to the level that balances the rest of the system. If you want a hefty bass engine... do it! But just know the parts of the music that really makes it all sound good, is a well balance full range system.
Swez
uochronos on 04/8/2004 15:11:01
ya keep looking at them for 5000$ its a sweet deal but i think i could s[pend my monmey on a good crossover/eq some amps or some decent lesser speakers for the rear then buying some speakers to add a tiny bit more sq to the front.... since the cdt's i have already blow me away up front.
swez on 04/8/2004 19:14:46
That's pretty much my point.... if you like what you have already, try to identify any weak spots that are bothering you and address them.
If you have adequate amping power to your front Comps, the only other real benefit I can see to make them sound even better, is to drop in a good EQ to tie everything together.
As for dumping large amounts of cash into the rear stage speakers, consider what is done in most HT applications... the bulk of your punch comes fron the front stage system. Ie: Left, right and center channels. The rear channels add ambient signals to give depth and spacial separation as if you were in a small theater.
You know what the subs do so it's really a matter of balance. Having all drivers playing at optimal power, a reasonably flat audio response all the way around and everything is balanced to your vehicle acoustics and personal taste.
A good EQ can do a lot to pull out peaky responses, make instruments sound natural, crisp vocals and tight bass response. If we want to warm up the sound a bit and fill in thin sounding cuts, midbass and lower midrange boost will do wonders. Just need enough bands of EQ to give realism to your mix. This allows one to re-mix a poorly recorded cut to something you really enjoy.
Do you have Real Player 10 or Media player? Both of these players have multi-band EQ. Drop in a CD, activate the EQ feature and play with it a while. This will give you a very good feel of what EQ can do toward enhancing what you hear. Just go easy on the sliders above "Flat". It is better to cut adjacent sliders a few dB than to boost above +4 - 6dB.
Swez
uochronos on 04/9/2004 03:16:23
as always it makes since i think i well go with a good midrange or midbass driver for my rears just to fill in the back a bit. and invest in the eq as well which ui have been looking into the audio control ones you mentioned before in another post. thanks as always.
Replies (5)
uochronos on 04/8/2004 02:34:04
no one on this? even just looking at the differnce in specs and makling an educated guess on what the sq differnce would be would be nice.
swez on 04/8/2004 07:53:17
Well, I have looked at this one earlier and did not know what to tell you then. I can say this in all confidence...
Put your best driver set in the front stage. This is what you will hear the most from the driver seat. The rear speakers are more or less, filling the rear cabin with additional audio content.
Some prefer full range audio in back, while others prefer only midbass/midrange. The subs fill in the last 1.5 octaves not well covered by the interior speakers.
Amping the interior speakers adequately, will produce clean SPL and get the full potential from a quality set of Components or coaxials.
Then it's just a matter of getting the bass engine to the level that balances the rest of the system. If you want a hefty bass engine... do it! But just know the parts of the music that really makes it all sound good, is a well balance full range system.
Swez
uochronos on 04/8/2004 15:11:01
ya keep looking at them for 5000$ its a sweet deal but i think i could s[pend my monmey on a good crossover/eq some amps or some decent lesser speakers for the rear then buying some speakers to add a tiny bit more sq to the front.... since the cdt's i have already blow me away up front.
swez on 04/8/2004 19:14:46
That's pretty much my point.... if you like what you have already, try to identify any weak spots that are bothering you and address them.
If you have adequate amping power to your front Comps, the only other real benefit I can see to make them sound even better, is to drop in a good EQ to tie everything together.
As for dumping large amounts of cash into the rear stage speakers, consider what is done in most HT applications... the bulk of your punch comes fron the front stage system. Ie: Left, right and center channels. The rear channels add ambient signals to give depth and spacial separation as if you were in a small theater.
You know what the subs do so it's really a matter of balance. Having all drivers playing at optimal power, a reasonably flat audio response all the way around and everything is balanced to your vehicle acoustics and personal taste.
A good EQ can do a lot to pull out peaky responses, make instruments sound natural, crisp vocals and tight bass response. If we want to warm up the sound a bit and fill in thin sounding cuts, midbass and lower midrange boost will do wonders. Just need enough bands of EQ to give realism to your mix. This allows one to re-mix a poorly recorded cut to something you really enjoy.
Do you have Real Player 10 or Media player? Both of these players have multi-band EQ. Drop in a CD, activate the EQ feature and play with it a while. This will give you a very good feel of what EQ can do toward enhancing what you hear. Just go easy on the sliders above "Flat". It is better to cut adjacent sliders a few dB than to boost above +4 - 6dB.
Swez
uochronos on 04/9/2004 03:16:23
as always it makes since i think i well go with a good midrange or midbass driver for my rears just to fill in the back a bit. and invest in the eq as well which ui have been looking into the audio control ones you mentioned before in another post. thanks as always.
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