I just have a quick question aboot what would be the best 12" sub for aboot $200-250 dollars Canadian Eh. So that would aboot $150-200 in Amurican dollars. The amp I have is an older Alpine V12. 600w Max, aboot 275w RMS. I also have a sealed box approx 1cf. The type of sub I am looking for is a nice mix of SPL and SQ. I want to feel the bass but not sound like crap. I would like to be heard coming down the road and get our 2 Mounties after me. Also the amp is 2 channels and stable bridged at 4 ohms
Thanks in advance for the help.
Mantuk
Replies (6)
swez on 03/24/2004 20:06:37
Consider these options:
1. Alpine SWR-1221D
12" Dual 2-ohm Voice Coil Subwoofer
Key Features:
KevlarŪ-infused pulp cone
1" Santoprene rubber surround
dual 2-ohm 2" voice coils (make sure your amplifier is compatible)
frequency response 24-1,000 Hz
power range 100-300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil)
peak power handling 1,000 watts
sensitivity 87 dB
top-mount depth 6-15/16"
sealed box volume: 0.7-1.0 cubic feet
ported box volume: 0.75-1.75 cubic feet
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2. Alpine SWS-1222D
12" dual 2-ohm voice coil subwoofer
Key Features:
KevlarŪ-reinforced pulp cone with aluminum finish
3/4" Santoprene rubber surround
dual 2-ohm impedance
stamped steel basket
frequency response 26-1,000 Hz
power range 50-300 watts RMS (150 watts per coil)
peak power handling 900 watts
sensitivity 87 dB
top-mount depth 6-1/4"
sealed box volume: 0.85-1.5 cubic feet
ported box volume: 1.25-2.0 cubic feet
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3. Infinity Reference 1230w (under $75.00 USD)
12" Component Subwoofer
Key Features:
polypropylene cone
deep-draw I-beam basket
70-ounce magnet structure
recommended power range 50-300 watts RMS
peak power handling 1,200 watts
frequency response 23-400 Hz
sensitivity 90 dB
top mount depth: 6-1/4"
sealed box volume: 1.25 cu. ft.
ported box volume: 2.00 cu. ft.
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4. Infinity Kappa 120.3se
12" 4-ohm Component Subwoofer
Key Features:
Ceramic Metal Matrix Diaphragm woofer cone
butyl rubber surround
power range 50-300 watts RMS
peak power handling 1,200 watts
frequency response 18-250 Hz
sensitivity 92 dB
4-ohm impedance
top-mount depth 6-3/16"
sealed box volume 1.0 cubic feet
ported box volume 2.0 cubic feet
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5. Adire Shiva Mark IV ($125.00 USD)
12" DVC 8+8 ohm voice coils
http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/ShivaTechSummary.PDF
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All the drivers noted here are fine quality SQ/SPL drivers. Each will handle 300 RMS. The Shiva can take more and go low too. The budget priced sub is the Infinity Ref 1230W. No slouch here either. Just becaused it is low priced, not a lame sub at all.
Swez
uochronos on 03/25/2004 11:22:14
there are also always the elemental designs line the k series offers 2 subs that would work for his application
http://www.edesignaudio.com/ep2/12kx.htm
is probaly the best bet and for only 85$ american thats a hell of a deal.... how aboot that:)
swez on 03/30/2004 14:37:57
What is status on this purchase?
Swez
Mantuk on 04/2/2004 09:05:20
Hey,
I went with the 12" Alpine Type S, last years model it was only $159 CDN. I wanted the new Type S model but the old one matched my amp better. Thanks for the help swez and uochronos.
Actually, I have got another question. How does my factory BOSE system compare to other aftermarket speakers? Would it be worth going with an anftermarket amp or just keep the factory set up? Or whatabout amp and new speakers, would it really make that much of a difference?
Mantuk
Mantuk on 04/2/2004 09:07:53
Ooops wait I meant to say what "aboot" new amp and speakers
swez on 04/2/2004 10:10:39
Bose systems have unique design characteristics. They amp the speakers off the Factory HU and use special Bose speakers that are specifically selected to Bose system needs.
Generally, Bose systems are not very compatible with aftermarket HUs, amplifiers and speaker. To improve what you have, most yank the whole system and start fresh with new Aftermarket gear. Ttocs has a good deal of experience in this one and I would defer to his experience to guide you on your options.
However, if you keep the Bose system for now and just add the amp and subs, there are some LOC's (Line out Converters) that arfe compatible with Bose Stock systems.
Look here: www.davidnavone.com
This one will work well off your rear deck speaker line taps and had an output adjustment pot to control output to amplifiers RCA inputs.
Product ID: N-85V Category: Adaptor Products
N-85V
Description: The N-85V is our best high quality low pass interface device for all OEM systems, even the Delco Bose! The N-85V is a 2 channel device with 12 dB of bass boost centered at 40 Hz with an infra-sonic filter on the bottom end. The N-85V features full transformer isolation to protect factory systems. This device will deliver from 0 up to 9.5 volts with excellent phase compensation. The variable feature permits the system headroom to be adjusted for maximum signal and minimum noise.
Price: $34.50
Swez
Thanks in advance for the help.
Mantuk
Replies (6)
swez on 03/24/2004 20:06:37
Consider these options:
1. Alpine SWR-1221D
12" Dual 2-ohm Voice Coil Subwoofer
Key Features:
KevlarŪ-infused pulp cone
1" Santoprene rubber surround
dual 2-ohm 2" voice coils (make sure your amplifier is compatible)
frequency response 24-1,000 Hz
power range 100-300 watts RMS (150 watts per voice coil)
peak power handling 1,000 watts
sensitivity 87 dB
top-mount depth 6-15/16"
sealed box volume: 0.7-1.0 cubic feet
ported box volume: 0.75-1.75 cubic feet
==================================================
2. Alpine SWS-1222D
12" dual 2-ohm voice coil subwoofer
Key Features:
KevlarŪ-reinforced pulp cone with aluminum finish
3/4" Santoprene rubber surround
dual 2-ohm impedance
stamped steel basket
frequency response 26-1,000 Hz
power range 50-300 watts RMS (150 watts per coil)
peak power handling 900 watts
sensitivity 87 dB
top-mount depth 6-1/4"
sealed box volume: 0.85-1.5 cubic feet
ported box volume: 1.25-2.0 cubic feet
===============================================
3. Infinity Reference 1230w (under $75.00 USD)
12" Component Subwoofer
Key Features:
polypropylene cone
deep-draw I-beam basket
70-ounce magnet structure
recommended power range 50-300 watts RMS
peak power handling 1,200 watts
frequency response 23-400 Hz
sensitivity 90 dB
top mount depth: 6-1/4"
sealed box volume: 1.25 cu. ft.
ported box volume: 2.00 cu. ft.
=================================================
4. Infinity Kappa 120.3se
12" 4-ohm Component Subwoofer
Key Features:
Ceramic Metal Matrix Diaphragm woofer cone
butyl rubber surround
power range 50-300 watts RMS
peak power handling 1,200 watts
frequency response 18-250 Hz
sensitivity 92 dB
4-ohm impedance
top-mount depth 6-3/16"
sealed box volume 1.0 cubic feet
ported box volume 2.0 cubic feet
===============================================
5. Adire Shiva Mark IV ($125.00 USD)
12" DVC 8+8 ohm voice coils
http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/ShivaTechSummary.PDF
===============================================
All the drivers noted here are fine quality SQ/SPL drivers. Each will handle 300 RMS. The Shiva can take more and go low too. The budget priced sub is the Infinity Ref 1230W. No slouch here either. Just becaused it is low priced, not a lame sub at all.
Swez
uochronos on 03/25/2004 11:22:14
there are also always the elemental designs line the k series offers 2 subs that would work for his application
http://www.edesignaudio.com/ep2/12kx.htm
is probaly the best bet and for only 85$ american thats a hell of a deal.... how aboot that:)
swez on 03/30/2004 14:37:57
What is status on this purchase?
Swez
Mantuk on 04/2/2004 09:05:20
Hey,
I went with the 12" Alpine Type S, last years model it was only $159 CDN. I wanted the new Type S model but the old one matched my amp better. Thanks for the help swez and uochronos.
Actually, I have got another question. How does my factory BOSE system compare to other aftermarket speakers? Would it be worth going with an anftermarket amp or just keep the factory set up? Or whatabout amp and new speakers, would it really make that much of a difference?
Mantuk
Mantuk on 04/2/2004 09:07:53
Ooops wait I meant to say what "aboot" new amp and speakers
swez on 04/2/2004 10:10:39
Bose systems have unique design characteristics. They amp the speakers off the Factory HU and use special Bose speakers that are specifically selected to Bose system needs.
Generally, Bose systems are not very compatible with aftermarket HUs, amplifiers and speaker. To improve what you have, most yank the whole system and start fresh with new Aftermarket gear. Ttocs has a good deal of experience in this one and I would defer to his experience to guide you on your options.
However, if you keep the Bose system for now and just add the amp and subs, there are some LOC's (Line out Converters) that arfe compatible with Bose Stock systems.
Look here: www.davidnavone.com
This one will work well off your rear deck speaker line taps and had an output adjustment pot to control output to amplifiers RCA inputs.
Product ID: N-85V Category: Adaptor Products
N-85V
Description: The N-85V is our best high quality low pass interface device for all OEM systems, even the Delco Bose! The N-85V is a 2 channel device with 12 dB of bass boost centered at 40 Hz with an infra-sonic filter on the bottom end. The N-85V features full transformer isolation to protect factory systems. This device will deliver from 0 up to 9.5 volts with excellent phase compensation. The variable feature permits the system headroom to be adjusted for maximum signal and minimum noise.
Price: $34.50
Swez
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