I am fixing to put either 2 or 3 (prob 2) 10" subs....i am thinking about Kicker CompVR.....also thinking about a Kicker KX series amp.....I want to go with Fosgate Wiring....my deck i already have and is a Alpine 7897 (i think that is the right number).....This is going to be my first install and any pointers would be nice....i have some friends that have hooked up stuff before but i want to learn myself and do it right so any help is appreciated.....
Replies (9)
uochronos on 02/17/2004 18:20:01
what are you looking for advise on here just looking for some help choosing the system? if so then there are alot of great choices around.
for speakers there is
kicker
Resonant engineering
elemental designs
JL
just to name a few of my favorites
if you are looking for some good 10's at a good price check out elemental designs A series killer subs for a good price.
also for amps you may wish to check out Avionixx amps they are just amazingly priced top of the line stuff for factory direct prices.
www.avionixxusa.com
also if you want help choosing subs what are you going for? sound quality or Loud booming bass or both. once amp and subs are choosing we can defiantly help you threw the install.
once we know exactly what your going for we can help you find what you want then outline all the things you well need.
~Chronos
tincup74 on 02/18/2004 08:31:49
I am looking for advice on choosing the system....and advice in general.....as far as the sound goes i am looking for loud but good but if i had to choose i would go for loud....i chked out the avionixx amps and will probally stay with kicker amps/subs.....i really like and trust kicker stuff....I just purchased two sets of infiniti 4x6...they scream pretty good. I have a kicker impulse amp that i want to put on the back set of those infiniti's......but for now i am working on the subs/amp....i am looking to order this stuff prob monday....and hopefully start on the install by thursday.....
uochronos on 02/18/2004 09:20:58
well if your just looking for loud bass with a some clarity the kicker subs and amp mentioned well do that. i'm still confused about what it is you want to know though. you seem set on the kicker amp and subs so mentioning other such as avionixx, jbl, elemental designs, and so on doesnt seem to be what your looking for. if your looking for advise on the install that should be realativly easy just a simple running of wires for the amp and then running the 2 subs together. there are several good wirign tuturials writen here.
i dont mean to frustrate you but i'am just having trouble figuring out what it is you want help with exactly. you say you want help choosing the system but you have the deck and speakers already and you are set on the sub and amp so i really dont know how to proceed with advise.
swez on 02/18/2004 18:09:42
Chill Chronos...SMILE If I did not know this game so well, I too would not know what questions to ask either... "we don't know what we don't yet know right " ?
You seem pretty fixed on the Kicker system which is fine for SPL (LOUD) applications. One thing you don't know about Kicker subs... they need a large box to get loud. If you have the space... (4-5 cubic feet) of box space... Comp VR's are fine.
However, if you have a tight spot and only 3 cubic ft to work with... another sub vendor like Resonant Engineering, Adire, Infinity, Alpine Type R or E-Designs may be a better choice in all. This matters alot as many single cab PU's just have very limited space behind the seat.
Also, have to look at power needs for the amps you plan to use. This truck may have a pretty beefy ALT/BAT already. Do you know what the CCA RATING is on your BAT? Stock are generally 600 -750 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) rated.
Also, those 4x6" speakers... are these dash mounted? If that is all you have now, your system is very likely to be very bass heavy, poor mids and average highs. Adding a set of 6" midbass drivers would help alot. They can be door mounted or set in the rear. Amping them is a must as well. Taking this approach, you will have every chance of a loud and clean install.
Remeber this: A good system is 80% install knowledge and 20% gear. Get them both right the first time out, and you will be happy for years to come.
Comments?
Swez
PS May I strongly recommend that you read some of the How to articles, FAQ's and other postings before you plunge ahead and buy. Would hate to see you spend a bundle and then not be satified with the outcome. We can help you impress your friends... not annoy them.
ttocs on 02/19/2004 09:22:30
welcome to the forum.
swez on 02/19/2004 09:36:26
Yeah... what he said!
Swez
tincup74 on 02/19/2004 09:40:57
ok then.....thanks for the help so far....i did not know that kicker subs needed room....that is somethig i am trying to conserve.....that is why i went with 10 and not 12's......but any way i will take a look at the other speaker suggestions and also at my alt/bat.....I got to go take 2 tests this morning but i will chk out and post back when i get outta class..................
tincup74 on 02/19/2004 09:42:02
the 4x6 are dash mounted but i still have to get the panelling off the back so i can put my other pair in the back....
swez on 02/19/2004 11:27:11
Good plan... the 4x6's are fine for mids/highs above say 150 Hz. Below that, they cannot take much power at low frequencies before breaking up. When choosing your rear speakers, consider a size large enough to handle 80 Hz and up well at power. This will fill in the gaps left from the 4x6's.
The other item to think about.. is how much low bass SPL you will use. The more deep bass SPL, the larger your amp will need to be, larger subs etc. Also, as you get past about 500 watts RMS (close to 140 dB), your truck may have a lot of rattles and vibrations to iron out. This takes a lot of time and is not cheap to deaden the panels that will drive you crazy in time.
These are all things to consider... before you buy and install your gear.
Swez
PS If you have not purchased your wiring set yet... RF is very expensive stuff as you are paying for that LOGO. There is a very high quality vendor that will meet all your hardware needs, at much better prices.
http://www.knukonceptz.com/
Replies (9)
uochronos on 02/17/2004 18:20:01
what are you looking for advise on here just looking for some help choosing the system? if so then there are alot of great choices around.
for speakers there is
kicker
Resonant engineering
elemental designs
JL
just to name a few of my favorites
if you are looking for some good 10's at a good price check out elemental designs A series killer subs for a good price.
also for amps you may wish to check out Avionixx amps they are just amazingly priced top of the line stuff for factory direct prices.
www.avionixxusa.com
also if you want help choosing subs what are you going for? sound quality or Loud booming bass or both. once amp and subs are choosing we can defiantly help you threw the install.
once we know exactly what your going for we can help you find what you want then outline all the things you well need.
~Chronos
tincup74 on 02/18/2004 08:31:49
I am looking for advice on choosing the system....and advice in general.....as far as the sound goes i am looking for loud but good but if i had to choose i would go for loud....i chked out the avionixx amps and will probally stay with kicker amps/subs.....i really like and trust kicker stuff....I just purchased two sets of infiniti 4x6...they scream pretty good. I have a kicker impulse amp that i want to put on the back set of those infiniti's......but for now i am working on the subs/amp....i am looking to order this stuff prob monday....and hopefully start on the install by thursday.....
uochronos on 02/18/2004 09:20:58
well if your just looking for loud bass with a some clarity the kicker subs and amp mentioned well do that. i'm still confused about what it is you want to know though. you seem set on the kicker amp and subs so mentioning other such as avionixx, jbl, elemental designs, and so on doesnt seem to be what your looking for. if your looking for advise on the install that should be realativly easy just a simple running of wires for the amp and then running the 2 subs together. there are several good wirign tuturials writen here.
i dont mean to frustrate you but i'am just having trouble figuring out what it is you want help with exactly. you say you want help choosing the system but you have the deck and speakers already and you are set on the sub and amp so i really dont know how to proceed with advise.
swez on 02/18/2004 18:09:42
Chill Chronos...SMILE If I did not know this game so well, I too would not know what questions to ask either... "we don't know what we don't yet know right " ?
You seem pretty fixed on the Kicker system which is fine for SPL (LOUD) applications. One thing you don't know about Kicker subs... they need a large box to get loud. If you have the space... (4-5 cubic feet) of box space... Comp VR's are fine.
However, if you have a tight spot and only 3 cubic ft to work with... another sub vendor like Resonant Engineering, Adire, Infinity, Alpine Type R or E-Designs may be a better choice in all. This matters alot as many single cab PU's just have very limited space behind the seat.
Also, have to look at power needs for the amps you plan to use. This truck may have a pretty beefy ALT/BAT already. Do you know what the CCA RATING is on your BAT? Stock are generally 600 -750 CCA (Cold Cranking Amps) rated.
Also, those 4x6" speakers... are these dash mounted? If that is all you have now, your system is very likely to be very bass heavy, poor mids and average highs. Adding a set of 6" midbass drivers would help alot. They can be door mounted or set in the rear. Amping them is a must as well. Taking this approach, you will have every chance of a loud and clean install.
Remeber this: A good system is 80% install knowledge and 20% gear. Get them both right the first time out, and you will be happy for years to come.
Comments?
Swez
PS May I strongly recommend that you read some of the How to articles, FAQ's and other postings before you plunge ahead and buy. Would hate to see you spend a bundle and then not be satified with the outcome. We can help you impress your friends... not annoy them.
ttocs on 02/19/2004 09:22:30
welcome to the forum.
swez on 02/19/2004 09:36:26
Yeah... what he said!
Swez
tincup74 on 02/19/2004 09:40:57
ok then.....thanks for the help so far....i did not know that kicker subs needed room....that is somethig i am trying to conserve.....that is why i went with 10 and not 12's......but any way i will take a look at the other speaker suggestions and also at my alt/bat.....I got to go take 2 tests this morning but i will chk out and post back when i get outta class..................
tincup74 on 02/19/2004 09:42:02
the 4x6 are dash mounted but i still have to get the panelling off the back so i can put my other pair in the back....
swez on 02/19/2004 11:27:11
Good plan... the 4x6's are fine for mids/highs above say 150 Hz. Below that, they cannot take much power at low frequencies before breaking up. When choosing your rear speakers, consider a size large enough to handle 80 Hz and up well at power. This will fill in the gaps left from the 4x6's.
The other item to think about.. is how much low bass SPL you will use. The more deep bass SPL, the larger your amp will need to be, larger subs etc. Also, as you get past about 500 watts RMS (close to 140 dB), your truck may have a lot of rattles and vibrations to iron out. This takes a lot of time and is not cheap to deaden the panels that will drive you crazy in time.
These are all things to consider... before you buy and install your gear.
Swez
PS If you have not purchased your wiring set yet... RF is very expensive stuff as you are paying for that LOGO. There is a very high quality vendor that will meet all your hardware needs, at much better prices.
http://www.knukonceptz.com/
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